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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
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	"Catangiu, Adrian Costin" <acatan@amazon.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC]: mm,power: introduce MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 00:39:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200703223905.GB25072@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0g+ip-EuUsoK646W-jVSSUhbnvHKsWmFH0+F1w0oYSmGw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri 2020-07-03 14:17:50, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:30 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 03-07-20 10:34:09, Catangiu, Adrian Costin wrote:
> > > This patch adds logic to the kernel power code to zero out contents of
> > > all MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND VMAs present in the system during its transition
> > > to any suspend state equal or greater/deeper than Suspend-to-memory,
> > > known as S3.
> >
> > How does the application learn that its memory got wiped? S2disk is an
> > async operation and it can happen at any time during the task execution.
> > So how does the application work to prevent from corrupted state - e.g.
> > when suspended between two memory loads?
> 
> This doesn't affect hibernation AFAICS, but system suspend
> (suspend-to-RAM or suspend-to-idle, or standby) is async too.
> 
> I guess this calls for an interface to notify user space (that opted
> in to receive such notifications) on system-wide suspend start and
> finish.

We could simply provide a file that would produce single byte 'e' when
entering the suspend and different byte 'x' when exiting...

Not sure how useful that would be for the crypto stuff...

Best regards,
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-03 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-03 10:34 [RFC]: mm,power: introduce MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND Catangiu, Adrian Costin
2020-07-03 11:04 ` Jann Horn
2020-07-04  1:33   ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2020-07-06 12:09   ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-03 11:30 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 12:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-03 22:39     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-07-03 13:29   ` Jann Horn
2020-07-03 22:34     ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-03 22:53       ` Jann Horn
2020-07-07  7:38     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07  8:07       ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-07  8:58         ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07 16:37           ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-07 19:00             ` Colm MacCarthaigh
2020-07-12  7:22               ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-13  8:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-04  1:45   ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2020-07-07  7:40     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-03 22:56   ` Jann Horn
2020-07-04 11:48     ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-06 12:26       ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-06 12:52         ` Jann Horn
2020-07-06 13:14           ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-07  7:44           ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07  8:01             ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-07  9:14               ` Michal Hocko

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