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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.ibm.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: support THP migration to device private memory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:01:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201120200133.GH917484@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbf1f0df-85f3-5887-050e-beb2aad750f2@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 03:38:42PM -0800, Ralph Campbell wrote:

> MEMORY_DEVICE_GENERIC:
> Struct pages are created in dev_dax_probe() and represent non-volatile memory.
> The device can be mmap()'ed which calls dax_mmap() which sets
> vma->vm_flags | VM_HUGEPAGE.
> A CPU page fault will result in a PTE, PMD, or PUD sized page
> (but not compound) to be inserted by vmf_insert_mixed() which will call either
> insert_pfn() or insert_page().
> Neither insert_pfn() nor insert_page() increments the page reference
> count.

But why was this done? It seems very strange to put a pfn with a
struct page into a VMA and then deliberately not take the refcount for
the duration of that pfn being in the VMA?

What prevents memunmap_pages() from progressing while VMAs still point
at the memory?

> I think just leaving the page reference count at one is better than trying
> to use the mmu_interval_notifier or changing vmf_insert_mixed() and
> invalidations of pfn_t_devmap(pfn) to adjust the page reference count.

Why so? The entire point of getting struct page's for this stuff was
to be able to follow the struct page flow. I never did learn a reason
why there is devmap stuff all over the place in the page table code...

> MEMORY_DEVICE_FS_DAX:
> Struct pages are created in pmem_attach_disk() and virtio_fs_setup_dax() with
> an initial reference count of one.
> The problem I see is that there are 3 states that are important:
> a) memory is free and not allocated to any file (page_ref_count() == 0).
> b) memory is allocated to a file and in the page cache (page_ref_count() == 1).
> c) some gup() or I/O has a reference even after calling unmap_mapping_pages()
>    (page_ref_count() > 1). ext4_break_layouts() basically waits until the
>    page_ref_count() == 1 with put_page() calling wake_up_var(&page->_refcount)
>    to wake up ext4_break_layouts().
> The current code doesn't seem to distinguish (a) and (b). If we want to use
> the 0->1 reference count to signal (c), then the page cache would have hold
> entries with a page_ref_count() == 0 which doesn't match the general page cache
> assumptions.

This explanation feels confusing. If *anything* has a reference on the
page it cannot be recycled. I would have guess the logic is to remove
it from the page cache then wait for a 0 reference??

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-06  0:51 [PATCH v3 0/6] mm/hmm/nouveau: add THP migration to migrate_vma_* Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm/thp: add prep_transhuge_device_private_page() Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  7:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 20:56     ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06 12:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06 20:34     ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm/migrate: move migrate_vma_collect_skip() Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  7:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06  7:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: support THP migration to device private memory Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  8:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 21:26     ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-09  9:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09 21:34         ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-11 23:38         ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-20 20:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-12-02 10:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-05  8:22               ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-12-02 10:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-02 18:01             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm/thp: add THP allocation helper Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  8:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 21:09     ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] mm/hmm/test: add self tests for THP migration Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] nouveau: support THP migration to private memory Ralph Campbell

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