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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, john.ogness@linutronix.de, urezki@gmail.com,
	ast@fb.com, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hugetlb: select PREEMPT_COUNT if HUGETLB_PAGE for in_atomic use
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:50:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210311175054.GA2696@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YEoA08n60+jzsnAl@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:36:51PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:09:15PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for being dense but I do not follow. You have provided the
> > following example
> >   spin_lock(&A);
> >   <IRQ>
> >         spin_lock(&A);
> > 
> > if A == hugetlb_lock then we should never reenter with
> > free_huge_page
> 
> What I'm saying is that if irq_disabled(), the that interrupt cannot
> happen, so the second spin_lock cannot happen, so the deadlock cannot
> happen.
> 
> So: '!irqs_disabled() && in_atomic()' is sufficient to avoid the IRQ
> recursion deadlock.
> 
> Also, Linus hates constructs like this:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CAHk-=wht7kAeyR5xEW2ORj7m0hibVxZ3t+2ie8vNHLQfdbN2_g@mail.gmail.com

To be fair, later in that same thread Linus states that his main concern
is not core code, but rather driver code:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wjsMycgMHJrCmeetR3r+K5bpSRtmVWfd8iaoQCYd_VYAg@mail.gmail.com/

Nevertheless, if the job can be done reasonably without checking the
preemption/interrupt state, why not?  And Mike's patch is still useful
for people hitting this bug.

							Thanx, Paul

> > From the code simplicity POV (and hugetlb has grown a lot of complexity)
> > it would be really easiest to make sure __free_huge_page to be called
> > from a non-atomic process context. There are few ways to do that
> > - defer each call to a WQ - user visible which sucks
> > - defer from atomic or otherwise non-sleeping contextx - requires
> >   reliable in_atomic AFAICS
> > - defer sleeping operations - makes the code flow more complex and it
> >   would be again user visible in some cases.
> > 
> > So I would say we are in "pick your own poison" kind of situation.
> 
> Just to be clear:
> 
> NAK on this patch and any and all ductape crap. Fix it properly, make
> hugetlb_lock, spool->lock IRQ-safe, move the workqueue into the CMA
> thing.
> 
> The code really doesn't look _that_ complicated.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11  2:13 [PATCH] hugetlb: select PREEMPT_COUNT if HUGETLB_PAGE for in_atomic use Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11  5:43 ` Andrew Morton
2021-03-11  8:20   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:26 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:27   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11  9:01   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11  9:44       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11 11:09           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 11:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11 12:02               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 17:25                 ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11 12:49               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 17:50               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2021-03-11  9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra

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