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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: vmalloc: use rwsem, mutex for vmap_area_lock and vmap_block->lock
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:25:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <413e0dfe-5a68-4cd9-9036-bed741e4cd22@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBgROQ0uAfZCbScg@pc636>

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 08:54:33AM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > vmalloc() is, by design, not permitted to be used in atomic context and
> > already contains components which may sleep, so avoiding spin locks is not
> > a problem from the perspective of atomic context.
> >
> > The global vmap_area_lock is held when the red/black tree rooted in
> > vmap_are_root is accessed and thus is rather long-held and under
> > potentially high contention. It is likely to be under contention for reads
> > rather than write, so replace it with a rwsem.
> >
> > Each individual vmap_block->lock is likely to be held for less time but
> > under low contention, so a mutex is not an outrageous choice here.
> >
> > A subset of test_vmalloc.sh performance results:-
> >
> > fix_size_alloc_test             0.40%
> > full_fit_alloc_test		2.08%
> > long_busy_list_alloc_test	0.34%
> > random_size_alloc_test		-0.25%
> > random_size_align_alloc_test	0.06%
> > ...
> > all tests cycles                0.2%
> >
> > This represents a tiny reduction in performance that sits barely above
> > noise.
> >
> How important to have many simultaneous users of vread()? I do not see a
> big reason to switch into mutexes due to performance impact and making it
> less atomic.

It's less about simultaneous users of vread() and more about being able to write
direct to user memory rather than via a bounce buffer and not hold a spinlock
over possible page faults.

The performance impact is barely above noise (I got fairly widely varying
results), so I don't think it's really much of a cost at all. I can't imagine
there are many users critically dependent on a sub-single digit % reduction in
speed in vmalloc() allocation.

As I was saying to Willy, the code is already not atomic, or rather needs rework
to become atomic-safe (there are a smattering of might_sleep()'s throughout)

However, given your objection alongside Willy's, let me examine Willy's
suggestion that we instead of doing this, prefault the user memory in advance of
the vread call.

>
> So, how important for you to have this change?
>

Personally, always very important :)

> --
> Uladzislau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-19  7:09 [PATCH v2 0/4] convert read_kcore(), vread() to use iterators Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fs/proc/kcore: Avoid bounce buffer for ktext data Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  9:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: vmalloc: use rwsem, mutex for vmap_area_lock and vmap_block->lock Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19 20:10   ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-19 20:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19 20:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-19 21:16         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  8:40           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  7:54   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-20  8:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2023-03-20  8:32       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-20  8:35         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20 11:20           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21  1:09   ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-21  5:23     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21  7:45       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-21  8:54         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21 10:05         ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-21 10:24           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 13:18     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 17:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-22 18:01         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 19:15           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-23 12:47             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-24  5:25       ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-24  5:31         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-27  0:38           ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-27 17:22         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-28  2:53           ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-28 12:40             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] fs/proc/kcore: convert read_kcore() to read_kcore_iter() Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: vmalloc: convert vread() to vread_iter() Lorenzo Stoakes

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