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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: vmalloc: use rwsem, mutex for vmap_area_lock and vmap_block->lock
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:32:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBgaBqareTrUrasp@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <413e0dfe-5a68-4cd9-9036-bed741e4cd22@lucifer.local>

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 08:25:32AM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 08:54:33AM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > vmalloc() is, by design, not permitted to be used in atomic context and
> > > already contains components which may sleep, so avoiding spin locks is not
> > > a problem from the perspective of atomic context.
> > >
> > > The global vmap_area_lock is held when the red/black tree rooted in
> > > vmap_are_root is accessed and thus is rather long-held and under
> > > potentially high contention. It is likely to be under contention for reads
> > > rather than write, so replace it with a rwsem.
> > >
> > > Each individual vmap_block->lock is likely to be held for less time but
> > > under low contention, so a mutex is not an outrageous choice here.
> > >
> > > A subset of test_vmalloc.sh performance results:-
> > >
> > > fix_size_alloc_test             0.40%
> > > full_fit_alloc_test		2.08%
> > > long_busy_list_alloc_test	0.34%
> > > random_size_alloc_test		-0.25%
> > > random_size_align_alloc_test	0.06%
> > > ...
> > > all tests cycles                0.2%
> > >
> > > This represents a tiny reduction in performance that sits barely above
> > > noise.
> > >
> > How important to have many simultaneous users of vread()? I do not see a
> > big reason to switch into mutexes due to performance impact and making it
> > less atomic.
> 
> It's less about simultaneous users of vread() and more about being able to write
> direct to user memory rather than via a bounce buffer and not hold a spinlock
> over possible page faults.
> 
> The performance impact is barely above noise (I got fairly widely varying
> results), so I don't think it's really much of a cost at all. I can't imagine
> there are many users critically dependent on a sub-single digit % reduction in
> speed in vmalloc() allocation.
> 
> As I was saying to Willy, the code is already not atomic, or rather needs rework
> to become atomic-safe (there are a smattering of might_sleep()'s throughout)
> 
> However, given your objection alongside Willy's, let me examine Willy's
> suggestion that we instead of doing this, prefault the user memory in advance of
> the vread call.
> 
Just a quick perf tests shows regression around 6%. 10 workers test_mask is 31:

# default
[  140.349731] All test took worker0=485061693537 cycles
[  140.386065] All test took worker1=486504572954 cycles
[  140.418452] All test took worker2=467204082542 cycles
[  140.435895] All test took worker3=512591010219 cycles
[  140.458316] All test took worker4=448583324125 cycles
[  140.494244] All test took worker5=501018129647 cycles
[  140.518144] All test took worker6=516224787767 cycles
[  140.535472] All test took worker7=442025617137 cycles
[  140.558249] All test took worker8=503337286539 cycles
[  140.590571] All test took worker9=494369561574 cycles

# patch
[  144.464916] All test took worker0=530373399067 cycles
[  144.492904] All test took worker1=522641540924 cycles
[  144.528999] All test took worker2=529711158267 cycles
[  144.552963] All test took worker3=527389011775 cycles
[  144.592951] All test took worker4=529583252449 cycles
[  144.610286] All test took worker5=523605706016 cycles
[  144.627690] All test took worker6=531494777011 cycles
[  144.653046] All test took worker7=527150114726 cycles
[  144.669818] All test took worker8=526599712235 cycles
[  144.693428] All test took worker9=526057490851 cycles

> >
> > So, how important for you to have this change?
> >
> 
> Personally, always very important :)
> 
This is good. Personal opinion always wins :)

--
Uladzislau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-19  7:09 [PATCH v2 0/4] convert read_kcore(), vread() to use iterators Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fs/proc/kcore: Avoid bounce buffer for ktext data Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  9:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: vmalloc: use rwsem, mutex for vmap_area_lock and vmap_block->lock Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19 20:10   ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-19 20:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19 20:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-19 21:16         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  8:40           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  7:54   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-20  8:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20  8:32       ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2023-03-20  8:35         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-20 11:20           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21  1:09   ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-21  5:23     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21  7:45       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-21  8:54         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-21 10:05         ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-21 10:24           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 13:18     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 17:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-22 18:01         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 19:15           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-23 12:47             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-24  5:25       ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-24  5:31         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-27  0:38           ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-27 17:22         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-28  2:53           ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-28 12:40             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] fs/proc/kcore: convert read_kcore() to read_kcore_iter() Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-03-19  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: vmalloc: convert vread() to vread_iter() Lorenzo Stoakes

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