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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leonardo@linux.ibm.com>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
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	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
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	Ganesh Goudar <ganeshgr@linux.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method to monitor lockless pgtable walks
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:57:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48bf32ca-5d3e-5d69-4cd1-6720364a0d81@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2533a13f226a6e1fab387669b6cced2aa8d2e129.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On 9/30/19 8:14 AM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> On Sun, 2019-09-29 at 15:40 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>> Hi, Leonardo,
> 
> Hello John, thanks for the feedback.
> 
>> Can we please do it as shown below, instead (compile-tested only)?
>>
>> This addresses all of the comments that I was going to make about structure
>> of this patch, which are:
>>
>> * The lockless synch is tricky, so it should be encapsulated in function
>>     calls if possible.
> 
> As I told before, there are cases where this function is called from
> 'real mode' in powerpc, which doesn't disable irqs and may have a
> tricky behavior if we do. So, encapsulate the irq disable in this
> function can be a bad choice.

You still haven't explained how this works in that case. So far, the
synchronization we've discussed has depended upon interrupt disabling
as part of the solution, in order to hold off page splitting and page
table freeing.

Simply skipping that means that an additional mechanism is required...which
btw might involve a new, ppc-specific routine, so maybe this is going to end
up pretty close to what I pasted in after all...

> 
> Of course, if we really need that, we can add a bool parameter to the
> function to choose about disabling/enabling irqs.
>>
>> * This is really a core mm function, so don't hide it away in arch layers.
>>     (If you're changing mm/ files, that's a big hint.)
> 
> My idea here is to let the arch decide on how this 'register' is going
> to work, as archs may have different needs (in powerpc for example, we
> can't always disable irqs, since we may be in realmode).
> 
> Maybe we can create a generic function instead of a dummy, and let it
> be replaced in case the arch needs to do so.

Yes, that might be what we need, if it turns out that ppc can't use this
approach (although let's see about that).


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-30 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27 23:39 [PATCH v4 00/11] Introduces new count-based method for monitoring lockless pagetable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method to monitor lockless pgtable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-29 22:40   ` John Hubbard
2019-09-29 23:17     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30 15:14     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 17:57       ` John Hubbard [this message]
2019-09-30 18:42         ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 21:47           ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 18:39             ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 18:52               ` John Hubbard
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] asm-generic/pgtable: Adds dummy functions " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm/gup: Applies counting method to monitor gup_pgd_range Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 11:09   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-30 14:27     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 21:51   ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 17:56     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 19:04       ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 19:40         ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] powerpc/mce_power: Applies counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] powerpc/perf: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/hash: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] powerpc/kvm/e500: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_64: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] powerpc/book3s_64: Enables counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walk Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing Leonardo Bras

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