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From: Leonardo Bras <leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
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Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>,
	Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ganesh Goudar <ganeshgr@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method to monitor lockless pgtable walks
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:42:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <673bcb94b7752e086cc4133fb6cceb24394c02c0.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48bf32ca-5d3e-5d69-4cd1-6720364a0d81@nvidia.com>

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On Mon, 2019-09-30 at 10:57 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> > As I told before, there are cases where this function is called from
> > 'real mode' in powerpc, which doesn't disable irqs and may have a
> > tricky behavior if we do. So, encapsulate the irq disable in this
> > function can be a bad choice.
> 
> You still haven't explained how this works in that case. So far, the
> synchronization we've discussed has depended upon interrupt disabling
> as part of the solution, in order to hold off page splitting and page
> table freeing.

The irqs are already disabled by another mechanism (hw): MSR_EE=0.
So, serialize will work as expected.

> Simply skipping that means that an additional mechanism is required...which
> btw might involve a new, ppc-specific routine, so maybe this is going to end
> up pretty close to what I pasted in after all...
> > Of course, if we really need that, we can add a bool parameter to the
> > function to choose about disabling/enabling irqs.
> > > * This is really a core mm function, so don't hide it away in arch layers.
> > >     (If you're changing mm/ files, that's a big hint.)
> > 
> > My idea here is to let the arch decide on how this 'register' is going
> > to work, as archs may have different needs (in powerpc for example, we
> > can't always disable irqs, since we may be in realmode).
> > 
> > Maybe we can create a generic function instead of a dummy, and let it
> > be replaced in case the arch needs to do so.
> 
> Yes, that might be what we need, if it turns out that ppc can't use this
> approach (although let's see about that).
> 

I initially used the dummy approach because I did not see anything like
serialize in other archs. 

I mean, even if I put some generic function here, if there is no
function to use the 'lockless_pgtbl_walk_count', it becomes only a
overhead.

> 
> thanks,

Thank you!

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-30 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27 23:39 [PATCH v4 00/11] Introduces new count-based method for monitoring lockless pagetable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method to monitor lockless pgtable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-29 22:40   ` John Hubbard
2019-09-29 23:17     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30 15:14     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 17:57       ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30 18:42         ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2019-09-30 21:47           ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 18:39             ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 18:52               ` John Hubbard
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] asm-generic/pgtable: Adds dummy functions " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm/gup: Applies counting method to monitor gup_pgd_range Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 11:09   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-30 14:27     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 21:51   ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 17:56     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 19:04       ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 19:40         ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] powerpc/mce_power: Applies counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] powerpc/perf: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/hash: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] powerpc/kvm/e500: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_64: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] powerpc/book3s_64: Enables counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walk Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing Leonardo Bras

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