From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, vmstat: reduce zone->lock holding time by /proc/pagetypeinfo
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:20:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b5a9ee8-4e52-f98c-d833-2e8493baa3a6@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191023143102.GI17610@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 10/23/19 4:31 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 23-10-19 15:48:36, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 10/23/19 3:37 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>
>>> But those wouldn't really help to prevent from the lockup, right?
>>
>> No, but it would perhaps help ensure that only people who know what they
>> are doing (or been told so by a developer e.g. on linux-mm) will try to
>> collect the data, and not some automatic monitoring tools taking
>> periodic snapshots of stuff in /proc that looks interesting.
>
> Well, we do trust root doesn't do harm, right?
Perhaps too much :)
>>> Besides that who would enable that config and how much of a difference
>>> would root only vs. debugfs make?
>>
>> I would hope those tools don't scrap debugfs as much as /proc, but I
>> might be wrong of course :)
>>
>>> Is the incomplete value a real problem?
>>
>> Hmm perhaps not. If the overflow happens only for one migratetype, one
>> can use also /proc/buddyinfo to get to the exact count, as was proposed
>> in this thread for Movable migratetype.
>
> Let's say this won't be the case. What is the worst case that the
> imprecision would cause? In other words. Does it really matter whether
> we have 100k pages on the free list of the specific migrate type for
> order or say 200k?
Probably not, it rather matters for which order the count approaches zero.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-23 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-22 16:21 [PATCH] mm/vmstat: Reduce zone lock hold time when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo Waiman Long
2019-10-22 16:57 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 18:00 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-22 18:40 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 0:52 ` David Rientjes
2019-10-23 8:31 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 9:56 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 10:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 10:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm, vmstat: hide /proc/pagetypeinfo from normal users Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:13 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 13:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 14:52 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:10 ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-24 19:01 ` David Rientjes
2019-10-23 10:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, vmstat: reduce zone->lock holding time by /proc/pagetypeinfo Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:15 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 13:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 13:37 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 14:31 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:20 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2019-10-23 13:46 ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 14:56 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:21 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:10 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:17 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:21 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 16:41 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:47 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, vmstat: Release zone lock more frequently when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo Waiman Long
2019-10-23 18:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 18:14 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 20:02 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, vmstat: List total free blocks for each order in /proc/pagetypeinfo Waiman Long
2019-10-23 18:02 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 18:07 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-24 8:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/vmstat: Reduce zone lock hold time when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 16:16 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 12:42 ` [PATCH] " Qian Cai
2019-10-23 13:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-22 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-23 6:15 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 14:30 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 14:48 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-23 15:01 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:05 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-23 22:30 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-24 5:33 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24 7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 11:11 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24 13:38 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 14:55 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24 3:33 ` Feng Tang
2019-10-24 4:34 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24 5:34 ` Feng Tang
2019-10-24 10:51 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-25 1:38 ` Feng Tang
2019-10-23 15:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 15:51 ` Qian Cai
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