From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 20:06:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <91523A61-1AF8-48F9-8650-D313032E550C@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X/TB6ztitnESl3qZ@redhat.com>
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 07:05:22PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> I just don't like to slow down a feature required in the future for
>>> implementing postcopy live snapshotting or other snapshots to userland
>>> processes (for the non-KVM case, also unprivileged by default if using
>>> bounce buffers to feed the syscalls) that can be used by open source
>>> hypervisors to beat proprietary hypervisors like vmware.
>>
>> Ouch, that’s uncalled for. I am sure that you understand that I have no
>> hidden agenda and we all have the same goal.
>
> Ehm I never said you had an hidden agenda, so I'm not exactly why
> you're accusing me of something I never said.
>
> I merely pointed out one relevant justification for increasing kernel
> complexity here by not slowing down clear_refs longstanding O(N)
> clear_refs/softdirty feature and the recent uffd-wp O(1) feature, is
> to be more competitive with proprietary software solutions, since
> at least for uffd-wp, postcopy live snapshotting that the #1 use
> case.
>
> I never questioned your contribution or your preference, to be even
> more explicit, it never crossed my mind that you have an hidden
> agenda.
>
> However since everyone already acked your patches and I'm not ok with
> your patches because they will give a hit to KVM postcopy live
> snapshotting and other container clear_refs users, I have to justify
> why I NAK your patches and remaining competitive with proprietary
> hypervisors is one of them, so I don't see what is wrong to state a
> tangible end goal here.
I fully understand your objection to my patches and it is a valid
objection, which I will address.
I just thought that there might be some insinuation, as you mentioned VMware
by name. My response was half-jokingly and should have had a smiley to
prevent you from wasting your time on the explanation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-05 20:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-25 9:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] mm: fix races due to deferred TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2020-12-25 9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 12:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-04 19:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 19:35 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 20:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 20:39 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 21:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 21:26 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 18:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:05 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 20:06 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2021-01-05 21:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:43 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 8:52 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 9:22 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 17:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 15:08 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 18:41 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:07 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:43 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-25 9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 15:08 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-05 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:26 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 20:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:20 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-05 21:22 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 22:16 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-06 0:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-06 0:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: soft_dirty: userfaultfd: introduce wrprotect_tlb_flush_pending Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:53 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:14 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:37 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-15 11:27 ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 12:48 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-08 16:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-09 0:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:36 ` kernel test robot
2021-01-07 20:25 ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-07 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-09 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-15 14:30 ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 21:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 13:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 17:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-08 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 23:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-09 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 22:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 0:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-09 2:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-11 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-13 21:56 ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 23:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-14 2:35 ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-09 3:49 ` Hillf Danton
2021-01-11 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 21:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Peter Xu
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