From: Juerg Haefliger <juergh@gmail.com>
To: Julian Stecklina <jsteckli@amazon.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:11:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADLDEKsxx=MSFu=4_4JLX1afUMr3GVjNxSQ-726NrbLn8KQaQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ciirm8efdy916l.fsf@u54ee758033e858cfa736.ant.amazon.com>
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Julian Stecklina <jsteckli@amazon.de> wrote:
> Julian Stecklina <jsteckli@amazon.de> writes:
>
>> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:45 AM Julian Stecklina <jsteckli@amazon.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been spending some cycles on the XPFO patch set this week. For the
>>>> patch set as it was posted for v4.13, the performance overhead of
>>>> compiling a Linux kernel is ~40% on x86_64[1]. The overhead comes almost
>>>> completely from TLB flushing. If we can live with stale TLB entries
>>>> allowing temporary access (which I think is reasonable), we can remove
>>>> all TLB flushing (on x86). This reduces the overhead to 2-3% for
>>>> kernel compile.
>>>
>>> I have to say, even 2-3% for a kernel compile sounds absolutely horrendous.
>>
>> Well, it's at least in a range where it doesn't look hopeless.
>>
>>> Kernel bullds are 90% user space at least for me, so a 2-3% slowdown
>>> from a kernel is not some small unnoticeable thing.
>>
>> The overhead seems to come from the hooks that XPFO adds to
>> alloc/free_pages. These hooks add a couple of atomic operations per
>> allocated (4K) page for book keeping. Some of these atomic ops are only
>> for debugging and could be removed. There is also some opportunity to
>> streamline the per-page space overhead of XPFO.
>
> I've updated my XPFO branch[1] to make some of the debugging optional
> and also integrated the XPFO bookkeeping with struct page, instead of
> requiring CONFIG_PAGE_EXTENSION, which removes some checks in the hot
> path.
FWIW, that was my original design but there was some resistance to
adding more to the page struct and page extension was suggested
instead.
> These changes push the overhead down to somewhere between 1.5 and
> 2% for my quad core box in kernel compile. This is close to the
> measurement noise, so I take suggestions for a better benchmark here.
>
> Of course, if you hit contention on the xpfo spinlock then performance
> will suffer. I guess this is what happened on Khalid's large box.
>
> I'll try to remove the spinlocks and add fixup code to the pagefault
> handler to see whether this improves the situation on large boxes. This
> might turn out to be ugly, though.
I'm wondering how much performance we're loosing by having to split
hugepages. Any chance this can be quantified somehow? Maybe we can
have a pool of some sorts reserved for userpages and group allocations
so that we can track the XPFO state at the hugepage level instead of
at the 4k level to prevent/reduce page splitting. Not sure if that
causes issues or has any unwanted side effects though...
...Juerg
> Julian
>
> [1] http://git.infradead.org/users/jsteckli/linux-xpfo.git/shortlog/refs/heads/xpfo-master
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-13 6:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 21:25 Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-08-20 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 21:52 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-08-20 22:18 ` Kees Cook
2018-08-20 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 22:35 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-08-20 22:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:14 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-20 23:26 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-21 9:57 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 14:01 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-21 14:22 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 23:04 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-30 16:00 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-08-31 15:26 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-01 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-01 22:33 ` Wes Turner
2018-09-03 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-03 14:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-12 15:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-13 6:11 ` Juerg Haefliger [this message]
2018-09-17 10:01 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-17 10:19 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-17 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-14 17:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-17 9:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-18 23:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-24 14:45 ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-10-15 8:07 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 11:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 15:00 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-03 15:26 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-04 9:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-07 21:30 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-08-31 8:43 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19 1:03 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-19 15:34 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:38 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:43 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-23 2:33 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-25 14:12 ` Stecklina, Julian
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