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From: Julian Stecklina <jsteckli@amazon.de>
To: Juerg Haefliger <juergh@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	deepa.srinivasan@oracle.com, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	joao.m.martins@oracle.com, pradeep.vincent@oracle.com,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com, Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	chris.hyser@oracle.com, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	John Haxby <john.haxby@oracle.com>, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:01:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ciirm8r2hs30kh.fsf@u54ee758033e858cfa736.ant.amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADLDEKsxx=MSFu=4_4JLX1afUMr3GVjNxSQ-726NrbLn8KQaQg@mail.gmail.com> (Juerg Haefliger's message of "Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:11:49 +0200")

Juerg Haefliger <juergh@gmail.com> writes:

>> I've updated my XPFO branch[1] to make some of the debugging optional
>> and also integrated the XPFO bookkeeping with struct page, instead of
>> requiring CONFIG_PAGE_EXTENSION, which removes some checks in the hot
>> path.
>
> FWIW, that was my original design but there was some resistance to
> adding more to the page struct and page extension was suggested
> instead.

>From looking at both versions, I have to say that having the metadata in
struct page makes the code easier to understand and removes some special
cases and bookkeeping.

> I'm wondering how much performance we're loosing by having to split
> hugepages. Any chance this can be quantified somehow? Maybe we can
> have a pool of some sorts reserved for userpages and group allocations
> so that we can track the XPFO state at the hugepage level instead of
> at the 4k level to prevent/reduce page splitting. Not sure if that
> causes issues or has any unwanted side effects though...

Optimizing the allocation/deallocation path might be worthwhile, because
that's where most of the overhead goes. I haven't looked into how to do
this yet. I'd appreciate if someone has pointers to code that tries to
achieve similar functionality to get me started.

That being said, I'm wondering whether we have unrealistic expectations
about the overhead here and whether it's worth turning this patch into
something far more complicated. Opinions?

Julian
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-17 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-20 21:25 Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-08-20 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 21:52   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-08-20 22:18     ` Kees Cook
2018-08-20 22:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 22:35       ` Tycho Andersen
2018-08-20 22:59         ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:14           ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-20 23:26             ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-21  9:57       ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 14:01         ` Liran Alon
2018-08-21 14:22           ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 23:04             ` Liran Alon
2018-08-30 16:00       ` Julian Stecklina
2018-08-31 15:26         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-01 21:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-01 22:33           ` Wes Turner
2018-09-03 15:36             ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-03 14:51           ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-12 15:37             ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-13  6:11               ` Juerg Haefliger
2018-09-17 10:01                 ` Julian Stecklina [this message]
2018-09-17 10:19                   ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-17 13:27                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-14 17:06               ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-17  9:51                 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-18 23:00                   ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-24 14:45                     ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-10-15  8:07                       ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 11:00                         ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 15:00                           ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-03 15:26           ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-04  9:37             ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-07 21:30         ` Khalid Aziz
2018-08-31  8:43     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19  1:03     ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-19 15:34       ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:38       ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-19 15:43       ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-23  2:33         ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-25 14:12           ` Stecklina, Julian

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