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From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mhocko@suse.com,  shy828301@gmail.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, willy@infradead.org,
	 xiang@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com, yuzhao@google.com,
	surenb@google.com,  steven.price@arm.com,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	 Chuanhua Han <hanchuanhua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 5/6] mm: rmap: weaken the WARN_ON in __folio_add_anon_rmap()
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 08:31:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF8kJuMmh06rCXuiu5V0BiT8t1ckEEnY4rM-ivRBQ+xdyMhRKQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c11d73d5-105e-4ae1-837a-b9da392d2dad@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 2:07 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 29.01.24 04:25, Chris Li wrote:
> > Hi David and Barry,
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:49 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have on my todo list to move all that !anon handling out of
> >>> folio_add_anon_rmap_ptes(), and instead make swapin code call add
> >>> folio_add_new_anon_rmap(), where we'll have to pass an exclusive flag
> >>> then (-> whole new folio exclusive).
> >>>
> >>> That's the cleaner approach.
> >>>
> >>
> >> one tricky thing is that sometimes it is hard to know who is the first
> >> one to add rmap and thus should
> >> call folio_add_new_anon_rmap.
> >> especially when we want to support swapin_readahead(), the one who
> >> allocated large filio might not
> >> be that one who firstly does rmap.
> >
> > I think Barry has a point. Two tasks might race to swap in the folio
> > then race to perform the rmap.
> > folio_add_new_anon_rmap() should only call a folio that is absolutely
> > "new", not shared. The sharing in swap cache disqualifies that
> > condition.
>
> We have to hold the folio lock. So only one task at a time might do the
> folio_add_anon_rmap_ptes() right now, and the
> folio_add_new_shared_anon_rmap() in the future [below].
>

Ah, I see. The folio_lock() is the answer I am looking for.

> Also observe how folio_add_anon_rmap_ptes() states that one must hold
> the page lock, because otherwise this would all be completely racy.
>
>  From the pte swp exclusive flags, we know for sure whether we are
> dealing with exclusive vs. shared. I think patch #6 does not properly
> check that all entries are actually the same in that regard (all
> exclusive vs all shared). That likely needs fixing.
>
> [I have converting per-page PageAnonExclusive flags to a single
> per-folio flag on my todo list. I suspect that we'll keep the
> per-swp-pte exlusive bits, but the question is rather what we can
> actually make work, because swap and migration just make it much more
> complicated. Anyhow, future work]
>
> >
> >> is it an acceptable way to do the below in do_swap_page?
> >> if (!folio_test_anon(folio))
> >>        folio_add_new_anon_rmap()
> >> else
> >>        folio_add_anon_rmap_ptes()
> >
> > I am curious to know the answer as well.
>
>
> Yes, the end code should likely be something like:
>
> /* ksm created a completely new copy */
> if (unlikely(folio != swapcache && swapcache)) {
>         folio_add_new_anon_rmap(folio, vma, vmf->address);
>         folio_add_lru_vma(folio, vma);
> } else if (folio_test_anon(folio)) {
>         folio_add_anon_rmap_ptes(rmap_flags)
> } else {
>         folio_add_new_anon_rmap(rmap_flags)
> }
>
> Maybe we want to avoid teaching all existing folio_add_new_anon_rmap()
> callers about a new flag, and just have a new
> folio_add_new_shared_anon_rmap() instead. TBD.

There is more than one caller needed to perform that dance around
folio_test_anon() then decide which function to call. It would be nice
to have a wrapper function folio_add_new_shared_anon_rmap() to
abstract this behavior.


>
> >
> > BTW, that test might have a race as well. By the time the task got
> > !anon result, this result might get changed by another task. We need
> > to make sure in the caller context this race can't happen. Otherwise
> > we can't do the above safely.
> Again, folio lock. Observe the folio_lock_or_retry() call that covers
> our existing folio_add_new_anon_rmap/folio_add_anon_rmap_pte calls.

Ack. Thanks for the explanation.

Chris


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 14:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-02-22 10:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 10:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 17:41       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 17:10         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 19:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28  9:37             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 12:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 14:57                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 15:12                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 15:18                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:27                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-01 16:44                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:00                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:14                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:18                               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:06                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04  4:52                             ` Barry Song
2024-03-04  5:42                               ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:41                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:32                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 16:03                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 17:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 18:38                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 20:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:55                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 22:02                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:34                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  6:11                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  8:35                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-05  8:46                                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 13:33               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-28 14:24                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 14:59                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: swap: Remove struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: swap: Simplify ssd behavior when scanner steals entry Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-30  8:18   ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-30 13:59     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31  8:12       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03 11:42         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02  7:40   ` Barry Song
2023-11-02 10:21     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02 22:36       ` Barry Song
2023-11-03 11:31         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-03 13:57           ` Steven Price
2023-11-04  9:34             ` Barry Song
2023-11-06 10:12               ` Steven Price
2023-11-06 21:39                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:51                   ` Steven Price
2023-11-07 12:46               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-07 18:05                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:23                   ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 20:20                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-08 21:04                       ` Barry Song
2023-11-04  5:49           ` Barry Song
2024-02-05  9:51   ` Barry Song
2024-02-05 12:14     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-18 23:40       ` Barry Song
2024-02-20 20:03         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:00         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:54           ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:44             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 12:28     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 13:37     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  2:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-22  7:05   ` Barry Song
2024-02-22 10:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-23  9:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:05         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  1:23           ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  9:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 23:18               ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 15:57             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:06   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 20:38     ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] arm64: mm: swap: support THP_SWAP on hardware with MTE Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:14     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  2:59       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] mm: swap: introduce swap_nr_free() for batched swap_free() Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:17     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  4:47       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] mm: swap: make should_try_to_free_swap() support large-folio Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:22     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] mm: support large folios swapin as a whole Barry Song
2024-01-27 19:53     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:29       ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 20:06     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:31       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] mm: rmap: weaken the WARN_ON in __folio_add_anon_rmap() Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-23  6:49       ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  3:25         ` Chris Li
2024-01-29 10:06           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 16:31             ` Chris Li [this message]
2024-02-26  5:05               ` Barry Song
2024-04-06 23:27             ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 23:41     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] mm: madvise: don't split mTHP for MADV_PAGEOUT Barry Song
2024-01-29  2:15     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  6:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 22:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 14:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 18:57       ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  3:49         ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 15:25   ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Ryan Roberts
2024-01-18 23:54     ` Barry Song
2024-01-19 13:25       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-27 14:27         ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  9:05   ` Huang, Ying

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