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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	moritz.lipp@iaik.tugraz.at,
	Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at>,
	michael.schwarz@iaik.tugraz.at,
	richard.fellner@student.tugraz.at,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/30] x86, kaiser: disable native VSYSCALL
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:15:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXNMYvF8FKzSnvoTR=bQiNBqBz93d+tJq1knhD8MWBYpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b23c090-f7c3-5110-011b-07e5131eb996@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Dave Hansen
<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/2017 07:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dave Hansen
>> <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2017 02:06 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> I have nothing against disabling native.  I object to breaking the
>>>> weird binary tracing behavior in the emulation mode, especially if
>>>> it's tangled up with KAISER.  I got all kinds of flak in an earlier
>>>> version of the vsyscall emulation patches when I broke that use case.
>>>> KAISER may get very widely backported -- let's not make changes that
>>>> are already known to break things.
>>>
>>> Is the thing that broke a "user mode program that actually looks at the
>>> vsyscall page"?  Like Linus is referring to here:
>>>
>> Yes.  But I disagree with Linus.  I think it would be perfectly
>> reasonable to enable KAISER and to use a tool like pin on a legacy
>> binary from some enterprise distribution.  I bet there are lots of
>> enterprise distributions that are still supported that use vsyscalls.
>
> All we need to do in the end here is to re-set _PAGE_USER on the user
> page table PGD that is used by the vsyscall page.  We should be able to
> do that with a line or two of code in kaiser_init().  We can do it
> conditionally on when the VDSO is not compile-time disabled.
>
> I can do this as a follow-on patch, or as the last one in the KAISER
> series and leave it up to our esteemed maintainers to decide whether
> they want to do it or not.  Sound good?
>
> Are there any userspace tests around that I can use for this, or will I
> have to cook something up?

I don't.  This old test might be adaptable:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/misc-tests.git/tree/test_vsyscall.cc

What you'd want to do is to add a variant that allocates some RWX
memory, memcpys the vsyscall page there, and tests that it still works
(but only if the vsyscall page worked in the first place).

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-14  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-08 19:46 [PATCH 00/30] [v2] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 01/30] x86, mm: do not set _PAGE_USER for init_mm " Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 20:11     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 10:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 02/30] x86, tlb: make CR4-based TLB flushes more robust Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 10:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-09 10:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 11:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 03/30] x86, mm: document X86_CR4_PGE toggling behavior Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 12:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 04/30] x86, kaiser: disable global pages by default with KAISER Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 12:51   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-09 22:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 05/30] x86, kaiser: prepare assembly for entry/exit CR3 switching Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 13:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-09 15:34     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 15:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 06/30] x86, kaiser: introduce user-mapped percpu areas Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:46 ` [PATCH 07/30] x86, kaiser: mark percpu data structures required for entry/exit Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 08/30] x86, kaiser: unmap kernel from userspace page tables (core patch) Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 12:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 09/30] x86, kaiser: only populate shadow page tables for userspace Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 10/30] x86, kaiser: allow NX to be set in p4d/pgd Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 11/30] x86, kaiser: make sure static PGDs are 8k in size Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 12/30] x86, kaiser: map GDT into user page tables Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 13/30] x86, kaiser: map dynamically-allocated LDTs Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 14/30] x86, kaiser: map espfix structures Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 15/30] x86, kaiser: map entry stack variables Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 16/30] x86, kaiser: map trace interrupt entry Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 17/30] x86, kaiser: map debug IDT tables Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 18/30] x86, kaiser: map virtually-addressed performance monitoring buffers Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 12:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 19/30] x86, mm: Move CR3 construction functions Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 20/30] x86, mm: remove hard-coded ASID limit checks Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 12:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-10 18:41     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 21/30] x86, mm: put mmu-to-h/w ASID translation in one place Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 22/30] x86, pcid, kaiser: allow flushing for future ASID switches Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 12:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 23/30] x86, kaiser: use PCID feature to make user and kernel switches faster Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 24/30] x86, kaiser: disable native VSYSCALL Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 19:04   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-09 19:26     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-10  0:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-10  0:57         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-10  1:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-10  1:22             ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-10  2:25               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-10  6:31                 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 22:06                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-10 23:04                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-13  3:52                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-13 21:07                         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-14  2:15                           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 25/30] x86, kaiser: add debugfs file to turn KAISER on/off at runtime Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 26/30] x86, kaiser: add a function to check for KAISER being enabled Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 27/30] x86, kaiser: un-poison PGDs at runtime Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 28/30] x86, kaiser: allow KAISER to be enabled/disabled " Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 29/30] x86, kaiser: add Kconfig Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 19:47 ` [PATCH 30/30] x86, kaiser, xen: Dynamically disable KAISER when running under Xen PV Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 15:01   ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-10 19:30 [PATCH 00/30] [v3] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables Dave Hansen
2017-11-10 19:31 ` [PATCH 24/30] x86, kaiser: disable native VSYSCALL Dave Hansen

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