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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/17] mm: Assign id to every memcg-aware shrinker
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:54:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod44__V3=Z45rnVVfFUqJM7_tdbBFjwXXtPOttb7TcMSyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180703192517.GA22738@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:25 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 12:19:35PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:13 PM Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> > > > Do we really have so very many !memcg-aware shrinkers?
> > > >
> > > > $ git grep -w register_shrinker |wc
> > > >      32     119    2221
> > > > $ git grep -w register_shrinker_prepared |wc
> > > >       4      13     268
> > > > (that's an overstatement; one of those is the declaration, one the definition,
> > > > and one an internal call, so we actually only have one caller of _prepared).
> > > >
> > > > So it looks to me like your average system has one shrinker per
> > > > filesystem, one per graphics card, one per raid5 device, and a few
> > > > miscellaneous.  I'd be shocked if anybody had more than 100 shrinkers
> > > > registered on their laptop.
> > > >
> > > > I think we should err on the side of simiplicity and just have one IDR for
> > > > every shrinker instead of playing games to solve a theoretical problem.
> > >
> > > It just a standard situation for the systems with many containers. Every mount
> > > introduce a new shrinker to the system, so it's easy to see a system with
> > > 100 or ever 1000 shrinkers. AFAIR, Shakeel said he also has the similar
> > > configurations.
> > >
> >
> > I can say on our production systems, a couple thousand shrinkers is normal.
>
> But how many are !memcg aware?  It sounds to me like almost all of the
> shrinkers come through the sget_userns() caller, so the other shrinkers
> are almost irrelevant.

I would say almost half. Sorry I do not have exact numbers. Basically
we use ext4 very extensively and majority of shrinkers are related to
ext4 (again I do not have exact numbers). One ext4 mount typically
registers three shrinkers, one memcg-aware (sget) and two non-memcg
aware (ext4_es_register_shrinker, ext4_xattr_create_cache).

Shakeel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-03 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03 15:08 [PATCH v8 00/17] Improve shrink_slab() scalability (old complexity was O(n^2), new is O(n)) Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:08 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] list_lru: Combine code under the same define Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:08 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] mm: Introduce CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM as combination of CONFIG_MEMCG && !CONFIG_SLOB Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] mm: Assign id to every memcg-aware shrinker Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:27   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 15:46     ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 16:17       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 17:32           ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-12 11:13             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-12 11:19               ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 20:39         ` Al Viro
2018-07-03 15:46     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:58       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 19:12         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 19:19           ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 19:25             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 19:54               ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] memcg: Move up for_each_mem_cgroup{, _tree} defines Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] mm: Assign memcg-aware shrinkers bitmap to memcg Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:50   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-04 15:51     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-05 22:10       ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-06 17:50         ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-05 22:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-06 17:30     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] mm: Refactoring in workingset_init() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] fs: Refactoring in alloc_super() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] fs: Propagate shrinker::id to list_lru Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] list_lru: Add memcg argument to list_lru_from_kmem() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] list_lru: Pass dst_memcg argument to memcg_drain_list_lru_node() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] list_lru: Pass lru " Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] mm: Export mem_cgroup_is_root() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] mm: Set bit in memcg shrinker bitmap on first list_lru item apearance Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:54   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] mm: Iterate only over charged shrinkers during memcg shrink_slab() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:58   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-04 14:56     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] mm: Generalize shrink_slab() calls in shrink_node() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] mm: Add SHRINK_EMPTY shrinker methods return value Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] mm: Clear shrinker bit if there are no objects related to memcg Kirill Tkhai

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