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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	mka@chromium.org,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
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	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
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	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/17] mm: Assign id to every memcg-aware shrinker
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 10:00:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod6eomn1Mt5r28tMthq4b+3MWuWJKgishf_N4UjortzvHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9fe3e9e-a1b7-ee19-35e6-af32b5f25a37@virtuozzo.com>

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 9:17 AM Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Shakeel,
>
> On 03.07.2018 18:46, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:27 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 06:09:05PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> >>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >>> @@ -169,6 +169,49 @@ unsigned long vm_total_pages;
> >>>  static LIST_HEAD(shrinker_list);
> >>>  static DECLARE_RWSEM(shrinker_rwsem);
> >>>
> >>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM
> >>> +static DEFINE_IDR(shrinker_idr);
> >>> +static int shrinker_nr_max;
> >>
> >> So ... we've now got a list_head (shrinker_list) which contains all of
> >> the shrinkers, plus a shrinker_idr which contains the memcg-aware shrinkers?
> >>
> >> Why not replace the shrinker_list with the shrinker_idr?  It's only used
> >> twice in vmscan.c:
> >>
> >> void register_shrinker_prepared(struct shrinker *shrinker)
> >> {
> >>         down_write(&shrinker_rwsem);
> >>         list_add_tail(&shrinker->list, &shrinker_list);
> >>         up_write(&shrinker_rwsem);
> >> }
> >>
> >>         list_for_each_entry(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
> >> ...
> >>
> >> The first is simply idr_alloc() and the second is
> >>
> >>         idr_for_each_entry(&shrinker_idr, shrinker, id) {
> >>
> >> I understand there's a difference between allocating the shrinker's ID and
> >> adding it to the list.  You can do this by calling idr_alloc with NULL
> >> as the pointer, and then using idr_replace() when you want to add the
> >> shrinker to the list.  idr_for_each_entry() skips over NULL entries.
> >>
> >> This will actually reduce the size of each shrinker and be more
> >> cache-efficient when calling the shrinkers.  I think we can also get
> >> rid of the shrinker_rwsem eventually, but let's leave it for now.
> >
> > Can you explain how you envision shrinker_rwsem can be removed? I am
> > very much interested in doing that.
>
> Have you tried to do some games with SRCU? It looks like we just need to
> teach count_objects() and scan_objects() to work with semi-destructed
> shrinkers. Though, this looks this will make impossible to introduce
> shrinkers, which do synchronize_srcu() in scan_objects() for example.
> Not sure, someone will actually use this, and this is possible to consider
> as limitation.
>

Hi Kirill, I tried SRCU and the discussion is at
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20171117173521.GA21692@infradead.org/T/#u

Paul E. McKenney suggested to enable SRCU unconditionally. So, to use
SRCU for shrinkers, we first have to push unconditional SRCU.

Tetsuo had another lockless solution which was a bit involved but does
not depend on SRCU.

thanks,
Shakeel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-03 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03 15:08 [PATCH v8 00/17] Improve shrink_slab() scalability (old complexity was O(n^2), new is O(n)) Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:08 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] list_lru: Combine code under the same define Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:08 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] mm: Introduce CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM as combination of CONFIG_MEMCG && !CONFIG_SLOB Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] mm: Assign id to every memcg-aware shrinker Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:27   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 15:46     ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 16:17       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:00         ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2018-07-03 17:32           ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-12 11:13             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-12 11:19               ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 20:39         ` Al Viro
2018-07-03 15:46     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 17:58       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 19:12         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 19:19           ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 19:25             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-03 19:54               ` Shakeel Butt
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] memcg: Move up for_each_mem_cgroup{, _tree} defines Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] mm: Assign memcg-aware shrinkers bitmap to memcg Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:50   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-04 15:51     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-05 22:10       ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-06 17:50         ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-05 22:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-06 17:30     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] mm: Refactoring in workingset_init() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] fs: Refactoring in alloc_super() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] fs: Propagate shrinker::id to list_lru Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] list_lru: Add memcg argument to list_lru_from_kmem() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] list_lru: Pass dst_memcg argument to memcg_drain_list_lru_node() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] list_lru: Pass lru " Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] mm: Export mem_cgroup_is_root() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:10 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] mm: Set bit in memcg shrinker bitmap on first list_lru item apearance Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:54   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] mm: Iterate only over charged shrinkers during memcg shrink_slab() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 20:58   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-04 14:56     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] mm: Generalize shrink_slab() calls in shrink_node() Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] mm: Add SHRINK_EMPTY shrinker methods return value Kirill Tkhai
2018-07-03 15:11 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] mm: Clear shrinker bit if there are no objects related to memcg Kirill Tkhai

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