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From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	 "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>, "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	 "akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mcgrof@kernel.org" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	 "Lu, Aaron" <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 10:36:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW51j8P+DNXvFh4uf5Mem7=egHyYMVK7-Zq2qeFoArYREQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3X1uHNTLQJxmJnm@kernel.org>

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:50 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:30:49PM -0800, Song Liu wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 2:35 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > My concern is that the proposed execmem_alloc() cannot be used for
> > > centralized handling of loading text. I'm not familiar enough with
> > > modules/ftrace/kprobes/BPF to clearly identify the potential caveats, but
> > > my gut feeling is that the proposed execmem_alloc() won't be an improvement
> > > but rather a hindrance for moving to centralized handling of loading text.
> >
> > I don't follow why this could ever be a hindrance. Luis is very excited about
> > this, and I am very sure it works for ftrace, kprobe, and BPF.
>
> Again, it's a gut feeling. But for execmem_alloc() to be a unified place of
> code allocation, it has to work for all architectures. If architectures
> have to override it, then where is the unification?
>
> The implementation you propose if great for x86, but to see it as unified
> solution it should be good at least for the major architectures.

As I mentioned earlier, folks are working on using bpf_prog_pack for BPF
JIT on powerpc. We will also work on something similar for ARM. I guess
these are good enough for major architectures?

>
> > > It feels to me that a lot of ground work is needed to get to the point
> > > where we can use centralized handling of loading text.
> >
> > Could you please be more specific on what is needed?
>
> The most obvious one to implement Peter's suggestion with VM_TOPDOWN_VMAP
> so that execmem_alloc() can be actually used by modules.

Current implementation is an alternative to VM_TOPDOWN_VMAP. I am
very sure it works for modules just like VM_TOPDOWN_VMAP solution.

Thanks,
Song


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-17 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 22:39 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/5] vmalloc: introduce execmem_alloc, execmem_free, and execmem_fill Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/5] x86/alternative: support execmem_alloc() and execmem_free() Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/5] bpf: use execmem_alloc for bpf program and bpf dispatcher Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/5] vmalloc: introduce register_text_tail_vm() Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 5/5] x86: use register_text_tail_vm Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:04   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08 22:15     ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 17:28       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 22:55 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-07 23:13   ` Song Liu
2022-11-07 23:39     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-08  0:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08  2:45         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-08 18:20         ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 18:12       ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 11:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-08 12:38   ` Aaron Lu
2022-11-09  6:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-09 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 16:51   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08 18:50     ` Song Liu
2022-11-09 11:17     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-09 17:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-09 17:53         ` Song Liu
2022-11-13 10:34         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:30           ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 21:18             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 21:39               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 22:34                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-17  8:50             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-17 18:36               ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-11-20 10:41                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-21 14:52                   ` Song Liu
2022-11-30  9:39                     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-09 17:43       ` Song Liu
2022-11-09 21:23         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-10  1:50           ` Song Liu
2022-11-13 10:42         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:45           ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 20:51             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-20 10:44             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-08 18:41   ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:43     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 21:40       ` Song Liu
2022-11-13  9:58     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:13       ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 11:44 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 18:47   ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:32     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 11:48 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-15  1:30 ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 17:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 21:54     ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 22:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 22:32         ` Song Liu
2022-11-16  1:20         ` Song Liu
2022-11-16 21:22           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 22:03             ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 21:09   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 21:32     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 22:48     ` Song Liu
2022-11-16 22:33       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-16 22:47         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 23:53           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-17  1:17             ` Song Liu
2022-11-17  9:37         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-29 10:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-29 17:26     ` Song Liu
2022-11-29 23:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 16:18         ` Song Liu
2022-12-01  9:08           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-01 19:31             ` Song Liu
2022-12-02  1:38               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-02  8:38                 ` Song Liu
2022-12-02  9:22                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-06 20:25                     ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 15:36                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 16:53                         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-07 19:29                           ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 21:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 21:48                             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-07 19:26                         ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 20:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 23:17                             ` Song Liu
2022-12-02 10:46                 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-02 17:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-01 20:23             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-12-01 22:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-03 14:46                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-12-03 20:58                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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