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From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  x86@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	hch@lst.de, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,  aaron.lu@intel.com,
	mcgrof@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:13:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW6Opkg0_qc53jQ3RyN5XKB2i3X3qNfoXLNrmUbD3AzcFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3C/4Y5bt5eXadzJ@kernel.org>

On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 1:59 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> >
> > There will be some memory waste in such cases. But it will get better with:
> > 1) With 4/5 and 5/5, BPF programs will share this 2MB page with kernel .text
> > section (_stext to _etext);
> > 2) modules, ftrace, kprobe will also share this 2MB page;
>
> Unless I'm missing something, what will be shared is the virtual space, the
> actual physical pages will be still allocated the same way as any vmalloc()
> allocation.

What do you mean by shared virtual space, but the actual physical pages are
still the same? This is a 2MB page shared by BPF programs, modules, etc.,
so it is 2MB virtual address space, and it is also 1x 2MB physical huge page.
For example, we will allocate one 2MB page, and put 1MB of module text,
512kB of BPF programs, some ftrace trampolines in this page.

>
> > 3) There are bigger BPF programs in many use cases.
>
> With statistics you provided above one will need hundreds if not thousands
> of BPF programs to fill a 2M page. I didn't do the math, but it seems that
> to see memory savings there should be several hundreds of BPF programs.

powerpc is trying to use bpf_prog_pack [1]. IIUC, execmem_alloc() should
allocate 512kB pages for powerpc. This already yielding memory savings:
on a random system in our fleet (x86_64), BPF programs use 140x 4kB
pages (or 560kB) without execmem_alloc(). They will fit in 200kB with
execmem_alloc(), and we can use the other 300kB+ for modules, ftrace,
etc.

OTOH, 512kB or even 2MB is really small for module systems, but iTLB
is always a limited resource.

Thanks,
Song

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20221110184303.393179-1-hbathini@linux.ibm.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 22:39 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/5] vmalloc: introduce execmem_alloc, execmem_free, and execmem_fill Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/5] x86/alternative: support execmem_alloc() and execmem_free() Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/5] bpf: use execmem_alloc for bpf program and bpf dispatcher Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/5] vmalloc: introduce register_text_tail_vm() Song Liu
2022-11-07 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 5/5] x86: use register_text_tail_vm Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:04   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08 22:15     ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 17:28       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 22:55 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/5] execmem_alloc for BPF programs Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-07 23:13   ` Song Liu
2022-11-07 23:39     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-08  0:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08  2:45         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-08 18:20         ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 18:12       ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 11:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-08 12:38   ` Aaron Lu
2022-11-09  6:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-09 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 16:51   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-08 18:50     ` Song Liu
2022-11-09 11:17     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-09 17:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-09 17:53         ` Song Liu
2022-11-13 10:34         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:30           ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 21:18             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 21:39               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 22:34                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-17  8:50             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-17 18:36               ` Song Liu
2022-11-20 10:41                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-21 14:52                   ` Song Liu
2022-11-30  9:39                     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-09 17:43       ` Song Liu
2022-11-09 21:23         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-10  1:50           ` Song Liu
2022-11-13 10:42         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:45           ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 20:51             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-20 10:44             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-08 18:41   ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:43     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 21:40       ` Song Liu
2022-11-13  9:58     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-14 20:13       ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-11-08 11:44 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 18:47   ` Song Liu
2022-11-08 19:32     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 11:48 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-15  1:30 ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 17:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 21:54     ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 22:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 22:32         ` Song Liu
2022-11-16  1:20         ` Song Liu
2022-11-16 21:22           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 22:03             ` Song Liu
2022-11-15 21:09   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 21:32     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-15 22:48     ` Song Liu
2022-11-16 22:33       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-16 22:47         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 23:53           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-11-17  1:17             ` Song Liu
2022-11-17  9:37         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-29 10:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-29 17:26     ` Song Liu
2022-11-29 23:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 16:18         ` Song Liu
2022-12-01  9:08           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-01 19:31             ` Song Liu
2022-12-02  1:38               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-02  8:38                 ` Song Liu
2022-12-02  9:22                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-06 20:25                     ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 15:36                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 16:53                         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-07 19:29                           ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 21:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 21:48                             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-07 19:26                         ` Song Liu
2022-12-07 20:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-07 23:17                             ` Song Liu
2022-12-02 10:46                 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-02 17:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-01 20:23             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-12-01 22:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-03 14:46                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-12-03 20:58                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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