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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
       [not found] ` <20230113065955.815667-3-boqun.feng@gmail.com>
@ 2023-01-13 13:03   ` Hillf Danton
  2023-01-13 17:58     ` Boqun Feng
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hillf Danton @ 2023-01-13 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boqun Feng
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
>  {
>  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
>  
> +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> +
>  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
>  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
>  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> -- 
> 2.38.1

The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
__lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.

	cpu9		cpu0
	---		---
	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
			lock A


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-13 13:03   ` [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks Hillf Danton
@ 2023-01-13 17:58     ` Boqun Feng
  2023-01-13 23:58       ` Hillf Danton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2023-01-13 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hillf Danton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:03:30PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
> >  {
> >  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
> >  
> > +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > +
> >  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
> >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
> >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> > -- 
> > 2.38.1
> 
> The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
> __lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.
> 
> 	cpu9		cpu0
> 	---		---
> 	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
> 	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> 			lock A

But isn't it just the srcu_mutex_ABBA test case in patch #3, and my run
of lockdep selftest shows we can catch it. Anything subtle I'm missing?

Regards,
Boqun


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-13 17:58     ` Boqun Feng
@ 2023-01-13 23:58       ` Hillf Danton
  2023-01-14  0:17         ` Boqun Feng
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hillf Danton @ 2023-01-13 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boqun Feng
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On 13 Jan 2023 09:58:10 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:03:30PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
> > >  
> > > +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > +
> > >  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
> > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
> > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> > > -- 
> > > 2.38.1
> > 
> > The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
> > __lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.
> > 
> > 	cpu9		cpu0
> > 	---		---
> > 	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
> > 	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > 			lock A
> 
> But isn't it just the srcu_mutex_ABBA test case in patch #3, and my run
> of lockdep selftest shows we can catch it. Anything subtle I'm missing?

I am leaning to not call it ABBA deadlock, because B is unlocked.

	task X		task Y
	---		---
	lock A
	lock B
			lock B
	unlock B
	wait_for_completion E

			lock A
			complete E

And no deadlock should be detected/caught after B goes home.


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-13 23:58       ` Hillf Danton
@ 2023-01-14  0:17         ` Boqun Feng
  2023-01-14  7:18           ` Hillf Danton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2023-01-14  0:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hillf Danton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 07:58:09AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On 13 Jan 2023 09:58:10 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:03:30PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
> > > >  
> > > > +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > +
> > > >  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
> > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
> > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.38.1
> > > 
> > > The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
> > > __lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.
> > > 
> > > 	cpu9		cpu0
> > > 	---		---
> > > 	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > 	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > 			lock A
> > 
> > But isn't it just the srcu_mutex_ABBA test case in patch #3, and my run
> > of lockdep selftest shows we can catch it. Anything subtle I'm missing?
> 
> I am leaning to not call it ABBA deadlock, because B is unlocked.
> 
> 	task X		task Y
> 	---		---
> 	lock A
> 	lock B
> 			lock B
> 	unlock B
> 	wait_for_completion E
> 
> 			lock A
> 			complete E
> 
> And no deadlock should be detected/caught after B goes home.

Your example makes me more confused.. given the case:

	task X		task Y
	---		---
	mutex_lock(A);
			srcu_read_lock(B);
	synchronze_srcu(B);
			mutex_lock(A);

isn't it a deadlock? If your example, A, B or E which one is srcu?

Regards,
Boqun


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-14  0:17         ` Boqun Feng
@ 2023-01-14  7:18           ` Hillf Danton
  2023-01-14  7:32             ` Boqun Feng
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hillf Danton @ 2023-01-14  7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boqun Feng
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 16:17:59 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 07:58:09AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > On 13 Jan 2023 09:58:10 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:03:30PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > > On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > > @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
> > > > >  {
> > > > >  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
> > > > >  
> > > > > +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > > +
> > > > >  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
> > > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
> > > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > 2.38.1
> > > > 
> > > > The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
> > > > __lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.
> > > > 
> > > > 	cpu9		cpu0
> > > > 	---		---
> > > > 	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > 	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > 			lock A
> > > 
> > > But isn't it just the srcu_mutex_ABBA test case in patch #3, and my run
> > > of lockdep selftest shows we can catch it. Anything subtle I'm missing?
> > 
> > I am leaning to not call it ABBA deadlock, because B is unlocked.
> > 
> > 	task X		task Y
> > 	---		---
> > 	lock A
> > 	lock B
> > 			lock B
> > 	unlock B
> > 	wait_for_completion E
> > 
> > 			lock A
> > 			complete E
> > 
> > And no deadlock should be detected/caught after B goes home.
> 
> Your example makes me more confused.. given the case:
> 
> 	task X		task Y
> 	---		---
> 	mutex_lock(A);
> 			srcu_read_lock(B);
> 	synchronze_srcu(B);
> 			mutex_lock(A);
> 
> isn't it a deadlock?

Yes and nope, see below.

> If your example, A, B or E which one is srcu?

A and B are mutex, and E is completion in my example to show the failure
of catching deadlock in case of non-fake lock. Now see srcu after your change.

 	task X			task Y
 	---			---
 	mutex_lock(A);
 				srcu_read_lock(B);
				srcu_lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
				a) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
 	synchronze_srcu(B);
	__synchronize_srcu(B);
	srcu_lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
	lock_map_sync(&B->dep_map);
	lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
	__lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
				b) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
	__lock_release(&B->dep_map);
				c) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
 				mutex_lock(A);
 
No deadlock could be detected if taskY takes mutexA after taskX releases B,
and how taskY acquires B does not matter as per the a), b) and c) modes in
the above chart, again because releasing lock can break deadlock in general.


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-14  7:18           ` Hillf Danton
@ 2023-01-14  7:32             ` Boqun Feng
  2023-01-14 10:26               ` Hillf Danton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2023-01-14  7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hillf Danton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 03:18:32PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 16:17:59 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 07:58:09AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > On 13 Jan 2023 09:58:10 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:03:30PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > > > On 12 Jan 2023 22:59:54 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > > > @@ -1267,6 +1267,8 @@ static void __synchronize_srcu(struct srcu_struct *ssp, bool do_norm)
> > > > > >  {
> > > > > >  	struct rcu_synchronize rcu;
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  	RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp) ||
> > > > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_bh_lock_map) ||
> > > > > >  			 lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) ||
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > 2.38.1
> > > > > 
> > > > > The following deadlock is able to escape srcu_lock_sync() because the
> > > > > __lock_release folded in sync leaves one lock on the sync side.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	cpu9		cpu0
> > > > > 	---		---
> > > > > 	lock A		srcu_lock_acquire(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > > 	srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > > 			lock A
> > > > 
> > > > But isn't it just the srcu_mutex_ABBA test case in patch #3, and my run
> > > > of lockdep selftest shows we can catch it. Anything subtle I'm missing?
> > > 
> > > I am leaning to not call it ABBA deadlock, because B is unlocked.
> > > 
> > > 	task X		task Y
> > > 	---		---
> > > 	lock A
> > > 	lock B
> > > 			lock B
> > > 	unlock B
> > > 	wait_for_completion E
> > > 
> > > 			lock A
> > > 			complete E
> > > 
> > > And no deadlock should be detected/caught after B goes home.
> > 
> > Your example makes me more confused.. given the case:
> > 
> > 	task X		task Y
> > 	---		---
> > 	mutex_lock(A);
> > 			srcu_read_lock(B);
> > 	synchronze_srcu(B);
> > 			mutex_lock(A);
> > 
> > isn't it a deadlock?
> 
> Yes and nope, see below.
> 
> > If your example, A, B or E which one is srcu?
> 
> A and B are mutex, and E is completion in my example to show the failure
> of catching deadlock in case of non-fake lock. Now see srcu after your change.
> 
>  	task X			task Y
>  	---			---
>  	mutex_lock(A);
>  				srcu_read_lock(B);
> 				srcu_lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
> 				a) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
>  	synchronze_srcu(B);
> 	__synchronize_srcu(B);
> 	srcu_lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> 	lock_map_sync(&B->dep_map);
> 	lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> 	__lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);

At this time, lockdep add dependency A -> B in the dependency graph.

> 				b) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> 	__lock_release(&B->dep_map);
> 				c) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
>  				mutex_lock(A);

and here, lockdep will try to add dependency B -> A into the dependency
graph, and find that A -> B -> A will form a circle (with strong
dependency), therefore lockdep knows it's a deadlock.

>  
> No deadlock could be detected if taskY takes mutexA after taskX releases B,

The timing that taskX releases B doesn't master, since lockdep uses
graph to detect deadlocks rather than after-fact detection.

> and how taskY acquires B does not matter as per the a), b) and c) modes in
> the above chart, again because releasing lock can break deadlock in general.

I have test cases showing the above deadlock can be detected, so if you
think there is a deadlock that may dodge from my change, feel free to
add a test case in lib/locking-selftest.c ;-)

Regards,
Boqun



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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-14  7:32             ` Boqun Feng
@ 2023-01-14 10:26               ` Hillf Danton
  2023-01-15  0:18                 ` Boqun Feng
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hillf Danton @ 2023-01-14 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boqun Feng
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 23:32:01 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 03:18:32PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> >
> >  	task X			task Y
> >  	---			---
> >  	mutex_lock(A);
> >  				srcu_read_lock(B);
> > 				srcu_lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
> > 				a) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> >  	synchronze_srcu(B);
> > 	__synchronize_srcu(B);
> > 	srcu_lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > 	lock_map_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > 	lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > 	__lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
> 
> At this time, lockdep add dependency A -> B in the dependency graph.
> 
> > 				b) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> > 	__lock_release(&B->dep_map);
> > 				c) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> >  				mutex_lock(A);
> 
> and here, lockdep will try to add dependency B -> A into the dependency
> graph, and find that A -> B -> A will form a circle (with strong
> dependency), therefore lockdep knows it's a deadlock. 

Is the strong dependency applying to mode c)?
If yes then deadlock should be also detected in the following locking
pattern that has no deadlock.

	cpu0			cpu1
	---			---
	mutex_lock A
	mutex_lock B
	mutex_unlock B
				mutex_lock B
				mutex_lock A
> 
> >  
> > No deadlock could be detected if taskY takes mutexA after taskX releases B,
> 
> The timing that taskX releases B doesn't master, since lockdep uses
> graph to detect deadlocks rather than after-fact detection.
> 
> > and how taskY acquires B does not matter as per the a), b) and c) modes in
> > the above chart, again because releasing lock can break deadlock in general.
> 
> I have test cases showing the above deadlock can be detected, so if you
> think there is a deadlock that may dodge from my change, feel free to
> add a test case in lib/locking-selftest.c ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Boqun


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* Re: [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Equip sleepable RCU with lockdep dependency graph checks
  2023-01-14 10:26               ` Hillf Danton
@ 2023-01-15  0:18                 ` Boqun Feng
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2023-01-15  0:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hillf Danton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Peter Zijlstra, Paul E. McKenney,
	Paolo Bonzini, Joel Fernandes

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 06:26:59PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 23:32:01 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 03:18:32PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > >
> > >  	task X			task Y
> > >  	---			---
> > >  	mutex_lock(A);
> > >  				srcu_read_lock(B);
> > > 				srcu_lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
> > > 				a) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> > >  	synchronze_srcu(B);
> > > 	__synchronize_srcu(B);
> > > 	srcu_lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > > 	lock_map_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > > 	lock_sync(&B->dep_map);
> > > 	__lock_acquire(&B->dep_map);
> > 
> > At this time, lockdep add dependency A -> B in the dependency graph.
> > 
> > > 				b) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> > > 	__lock_release(&B->dep_map);
> > > 				c) lock_map_acquire_read(&B->dep_map);
> > >  				mutex_lock(A);
> > 
> > and here, lockdep will try to add dependency B -> A into the dependency
> > graph, and find that A -> B -> A will form a circle (with strong
> > dependency), therefore lockdep knows it's a deadlock. 
> 
> Is the strong dependency applying to mode c)?
> If yes then deadlock should be also detected in the following locking
> pattern that has no deadlock.
> 
> 	cpu0			cpu1
> 	---			---
> 	mutex_lock A
> 	mutex_lock B
> 	mutex_unlock B
> 				mutex_lock B
> 				mutex_lock A

Well, of course, this is how lockdep works. Lockdep detects the
*potential* deadlocks rather than detects the deadlocks when they
really happen. Otherwise lockdep is useless.

The execution in your example shows the potential deadlocks, i.e. one
task acquires A and then acquires B, the other task acquires B and then
acquires A. Potential deadlocks mean given a correct timing, a deadlock
may happen.

Regards,
Boqun

> > 
> > >  
> > > No deadlock could be detected if taskY takes mutexA after taskX releases B,
> > 
> > The timing that taskX releases B doesn't master, since lockdep uses
> > graph to detect deadlocks rather than after-fact detection.
> > 
> > > and how taskY acquires B does not matter as per the a), b) and c) modes in
> > > the above chart, again because releasing lock can break deadlock in general.
> > 
> > I have test cases showing the above deadlock can be detected, so if you
> > think there is a deadlock that may dodge from my change, feel free to
> > add a test case in lib/locking-selftest.c ;-)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Boqun


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2023-01-13 17:58     ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-13 23:58       ` Hillf Danton
2023-01-14  0:17         ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-14  7:18           ` Hillf Danton
2023-01-14  7:32             ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-14 10:26               ` Hillf Danton
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