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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Michael Larabel <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
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	page-reclaim@google.com, x86@kernel.org,
	Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: multigenerational lru: aging
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:25:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd/wC8K3+0pE+3UZ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd6tafG3CS7BoRYn@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:28:57AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 11-01-22 16:16:57, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 04:01:13PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 06-01-22 17:12:18, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Tue 04-01-22 13:22:25, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > > > +static struct lru_gen_mm_walk *alloc_mm_walk(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	if (!current->reclaim_state || !current->reclaim_state->mm_walk)
> > > > > +		return kvzalloc(sizeof(struct lru_gen_mm_walk), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > 
> > > One thing I have overlooked completely.
> > 
> > I appreciate your attention to details but GFP_KERNEL is legit in the
> > reclaim path. It's been used many years in our production, e.g.,
> >   page reclaim
> >     swap_writepage()
> >       frontswap_store()
> >         zswap_frontswap_store()
> >           zswap_entry_cache_alloc(GFP_KERNEL)
> > 
> > (And I always test my changes with lockdep, kasan, DEBUG_VM, etc., no
> >  warnings ever seen from using GFP_KERNEL in the reclaim path.)
> 
> OK, I can see it now. __need_reclaim will check for PF_MEMALLOC and skip
> the fs_reclaim tracking.
> 
> I still maintain I am not really happy about (nor in the zswap example)
> allocations from the direct reclaim context. I would really recommend
> using a pre-allocated pool of objects.

Not trying to argue anything -- there are many other places in the
reclaim path that must allocate memory to make progress, e.g.,

  add_to_swap_cache()
    xas_nomem()

  __swap_writepage()
    bio_alloc()

The only way to not allocate memory is drop clean pages. Writing dirty
pages (not swap) might require allocations as well. (But we only write
dirty pages in kswapd, not in the direct reclaim path.)

> If there are strong reasons for not doing so then at lease change that
> to kzalloc.

Consider it done.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-13  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-04 20:22 [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 10:45   ` Will Deacon
2022-01-05 20:47     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 10:30       ` Will Deacon
2022-01-07  7:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 14:19           ` Will Deacon
2022-01-11 22:27             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] mm: multigenerational lru: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11  8:16   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12  2:16     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] mm: multigenerational lru: mm_struct list Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  9:06   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-08  0:19     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:21       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12  8:08         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: multigenerational lru: aging Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:06   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:27     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  8:43       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 21:12         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:12   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:41     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  8:55       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07  9:00         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10  3:58           ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:37             ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13  9:43               ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 12:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19  6:31                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19  9:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 15:01     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-10 16:25         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 23:16       ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:28         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13  9:25           ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-01-07 13:11   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 23:36     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:35       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11  9:00           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <1641900108.61dd684cb0e59@mail.inbox.lv>
2022-01-11 12:15           ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 14:22         ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-07 14:44   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10  4:47     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:54       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19  7:04         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19  9:42           ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-23 21:28             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-24 14:01               ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:57   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12  1:01     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:17       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 23:43         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 11:57           ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-23 21:40             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] mm: multigenerational lru: eviction Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 10:37   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12  8:05     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] mm: multigenerational lru: user interface Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:27   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-12  8:35     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:31       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 15:45       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-13  9:47         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 10:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-13 23:02     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-14  5:20       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-14  6:50         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] mm: multigenerational lru: Kconfig Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:30 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 21:12     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  9:38   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 18:45     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:39       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 22:04         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 22:46           ` Jesse Barnes
2022-01-11  1:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11 10:40             ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11  8:41   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11  8:53     ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-01-11  9:26     ` Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig)
2022-01-11 16:04     ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-12  1:46     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2022-01-12  6:07     ` Sofia Trinh
2022-01-12 16:17       ` Daniel Byrne
2022-01-18  9:21     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-18  9:36     ` Donald Carr
2022-01-19 20:19     ` Steven Barrett
2022-01-19 22:25     ` Brian Geffon
2022-01-05  2:44 ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-05  8:55 ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 10:53   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 11:25     ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 21:06       ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:49 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-11 10:24 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-12 20:56 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-01-13  8:59   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-23  5:43 ` Barry Song
2022-01-25  6:48   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-28  8:54     ` Barry Song
2022-02-08  9:16       ` Yu Zhao

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