From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"hugh.dickins" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault()
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081137210.7821@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100108192815.GB14141@basil.fritz.box>
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> With 24 CPU threads cheating is very difficult too.
Stop making value judgements in you word choice, like "cheating".
The fact is, the mmap_sem is per-mm, and works perfectly well. Other
locking can be vma-specific, but as already mentioned, it's not going to
_help_, since most of the time even hugely threaded programs will be using
malloc-like functionality and you have allocations not only cross threads,
but in general using the same vma.
Another fact is simply that you shouldn't write your app so that it needs
to do millions of page faults per second.
So this whole "cheating" argument of yours is total bullshit. It bears no
relation to reality.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-08 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-04 18:24 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] mm: Remove pte reference from fault path Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] mm: Speculative pagefault infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] mm: Add vma sequence count Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] mm: RCU free vmas Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 2:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] mm: Speculative pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 15:40 ` Al Viro
2010-01-05 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 15:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 4:29 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 5:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 5:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 7:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 17:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 23:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-06 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 2:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 3:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 7:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 7:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-06 9:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 16:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-08 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 17:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 19:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-01-08 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 21:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-09 14:47 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-01-10 5:27 ` Nitin Gupta
2010-01-05 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 6:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 6:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 6:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 6:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 13:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-05 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 15:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-06 3:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 16:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 16:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 4:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-08 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 15:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-09 15:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 19:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 22:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 23:51 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] mm,x86: speculative pagefault support Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] mm: Optimize pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 21:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 23:20 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
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