From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"hugh.dickins" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault()
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:42:38 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081139490.7821@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081137210.7821@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> Another fact is simply that you shouldn't write your app so that it needs
> to do millions of page faults per second.
Side note: an app with lots of threads, and that needs to fault in lots of
pages at startup time, and has performance problems, can - and should -
likely use interfaces that are _designed_ for that.
There's things like madvise(WILLNEED) etc, which can batch up the filling
of a memory area.
If you're doing a performance-sensitive application with hundreds of
threads, and hundreds of gigabytes of data, you had better know about
simple concepts like "batch fill", rather than whine about "oh my, my
totally special-case app takes a few seconds to start because I'M A
F*CKING MORON AND DID EVERYTHING WRONG".
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-08 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-04 18:24 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] mm: Remove pte reference from fault path Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] mm: Speculative pagefault infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] mm: Add vma sequence count Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] mm: RCU free vmas Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 2:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] mm: Speculative pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 15:40 ` Al Viro
2010-01-05 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 15:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 4:29 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 5:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 5:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 7:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 17:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 18:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-05 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 23:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-06 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 2:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 3:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-06 7:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 7:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-06 9:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 16:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-08 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 17:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 19:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-01-08 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 21:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-09 14:47 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-01-10 5:27 ` Nitin Gupta
2010-01-05 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 6:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 4:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-05 6:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 6:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 6:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-05 13:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-05 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-05 15:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-06 3:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 16:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 16:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-08 4:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-08 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 15:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-09 15:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-07 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 19:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-07 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 21:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 22:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-08 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-07 23:51 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] mm,x86: speculative pagefault support Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 18:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] mm: Optimize pte_map_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 21:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Speculative pagefault -v3 Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 23:20 ` Rik van Riel
2010-01-04 21:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-05 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
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