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From: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded?
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 08:11:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c801da70-1aa5-666a-615e-852100d6145e@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190704110903.GE5620@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 7/4/19 4:09 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 03-07-19 16:54:35, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>> On 7/3/19 2:43 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>> Indeed. I'm getting knocked offline shortly so I didn't give this the
>>> time it deserves but it appears that part of this problem is
>>> hugetlb-specific when one node is full and can enter into this continual
>>> loop due to __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL requiring both nr_reclaimed and
>>> nr_scanned to be zero.
>>
>> Yes, I am not aware of any other large order allocations consistently made
>> with __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL.  But, I did not look too closely.  Michal believes
>> that hugetlb pages allocations should use __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL.
> 
> Yes. The argument is that this is controlable by an admin and failures
> should be prevented as much as possible. I didn't get to understand
> should_continue_reclaim part of the problem but I have a strong feeling
> that __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL handling at that layer is not correct. What
> happens if it is simply removed and we rely only on the retry mechanism
> from the page allocator instead? Does the success rate is reduced
> considerably?

It certainly will be reduced.  I 'think' it will be hard to predict how
much it will be reduced as this will depend on the state of memory usage
and fragmentation at the time of the attempt.

I can try to measure this, but I will be a few days due to U.S. holiday.
-- 
Mike Kravetz


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-04 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23  4:07 [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded? Mike Kravetz
2019-04-23  7:19 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-23 16:39   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-04-24 14:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-06-28 18:20       ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-01  8:59         ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-02  3:15           ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-03  9:43             ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-03 23:54               ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-04 11:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-04 15:11                   ` Mike Kravetz [this message]
2019-07-08  5:19             ` Hillf Danton
2019-07-10 18:42             ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-10 19:44               ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 23:36                 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-11  7:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-12  9:49                     ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-11 15:44 Hillf Danton
2019-07-12  5:47 Hillf Danton
2019-07-13  1:11 ` Mike Kravetz

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