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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Robert Love <rlove@google.com>
Cc: Raul Xiong <raulxiong@gmail.com>,
	Neil Zhang <glacier1980@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Shankar Brahadeeswaran <shankoo77@gmail.com>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Bringert <bringert@google.com>,
	devel <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Anjana V Kumar <anjanavk12@gmail.com>,
	linux-next <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] ashmem: Fix ashmem_shrink deadlock.
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 10:19:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130516101907.d102dd91.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG6tG3xLydqQTOHaXMpdCo8m+WkydAqgLvi5HW8_djoO-hcf9g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:08:17 -0400 Robert Love <rlove@google.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > A better approach would be to add a new __GFP_NOSHRINKERS, but it's all
> > variations on a theme.
> 
> I don't like this proposal, either. Many of the existing GFP flags
> already exist to prevent recurse into that flag's respective shrinker.
> 
> This problem seems a rare proper use of mutex_trylock.

Not really.  The need for a trylock is often an indication that a
subsystem has a locking misdesign.  That is indeed the case here.

> > The mutex_trylock(ashmem_mutex) will actually have the best
> > performance, because it skips the least amount of memory reclaim
> > opportunities.
> 
> Right.
> 
> > But it still sucks!  The real problem is that there exists a lock
> > called "ashmem_mutex", taken by both the high-level mmap() and by the
> > low-level shrinker.  And taken by everything else too!  The ashmem
> > locking is pretty crude...
> 
> The locking is "crude" because I optimized for space, not time, and
> there was (and is) no indication we were suffering lock contention due
> to the global lock. I haven't thought through the implications of
> pushing locking into the ashmem_area and ashmem_range objects, but it
> does look like we'd end up often grabbing all of the locks ...
> 
> > What is the mutex_lock() in ashmem_mmap() actually protecting?  I don't
> > see much, apart from perhaps some incidental races around the contents
> > of the file's ashmem_area, and those could/should be protected by a
> > per-object lock, not a global one?
> 
> ... but not, as you note, in ashmem_mmap. The main race there is
> around the allocation of asma->file. That could definitely be a lock
> local to ashmem_area. I'm OK if anyone wants to take that on but it
> seems a lot of work for a driver with an unclear future.

Well, it's not exactly a ton of work, but adding a per-ashmem_area lock
to protect ->file would rather be putting lipstick on a pig.  I suppose
we can put the trylock in there and run away, but it wouldn't hurt to
drop in a big fat comment somewhere explaining that the driver should be
migrated to a per-object locking scheme.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-16 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-01 13:56 [PATCH -next] ashmem: Fix ashmem_shrink deadlock Robert Love
2013-05-01 15:54 ` David Rientjes
2013-05-02 18:22   ` David Rientjes
2013-05-02 20:39     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-07 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-13 21:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-14  3:29   ` Neil Zhang
2013-05-14  3:37     ` Raul Xiong
2013-05-16  8:15       ` Raul Xiong
2013-05-16 13:44         ` Robert Love
2013-05-16 16:45           ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-16 17:08             ` Robert Love
2013-05-16 17:19               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-05-16 17:28                 ` Robert Love
2013-09-17  5:05                   ` Raul Xiong

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