From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>,
umalhi@cisco.com, zhongjiang@huawei.com,
venkata.s.dhanalakota@intel.com,
Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] xprtrdma: Remove support for FMR memory registration
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:56:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1172062C-E8CB-4F37-905D-F40EC8D9270C@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181119224143.GL4890@ziepe.ca>
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 08:16:37AM -0800, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 10:45 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>> FMR is not supported on most recent RDMA devices. It is also slower
>>> and less secure than FRWR. As discussed during the RDMA BoF at LPC
>>> 2018, it is time to remove support for FMR in the NFS/RDMA client
>>> stack. NFS/RDMA server-side uses either local memory registration or
>>> FRWR. There is no change required there to deprecate FMR.
>>>
>>> There are a few Infiniband/RoCE devices in the kernel tree that do
>>> not support MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS, and therefore will no longer support
>>> client-side NFS/RDMA. These are:
>>>
>>> - mthca
>>> - qib
>
> Ooh, qib was not in the list when we talked on this in plumbers. That
> does change things.
>
> Dennis: Could qib be changed? HFI1 supports FRWR right?
>
>>> - usnic
>>> - hns (RoCE)
>>
>> Can someone from Intel comment on how many of their customers rely on the qib
>> driver?
>>
>> Can someone from Cisco comment on how many of their customers rely on the usnic
>> driver?
>
> Ignore usnic, it is not a RDMA driver
>
>> Can someone from Huawei comment on how many of their customers rely on the hns
>> driver?
>
> Nor was this, this is an actively used driver..
>
> Could hns do FRWR? It is very disappointing that such a new driver
> does not support FRWR.
>
> I guess it is worth stating again that FMR is deprecated. People are
> going to be disappointed if they try to submit new drivers that don't
> support FRWR :(
My methodology was to search for whether each driver asserts
IB_DEVICE_MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS in device_cap_flags.
Interestingly, nes and ocrdma assert it, but qib and hns do not.
--
Chuck Lever
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-19 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-19 15:45 [PATCH v1 0/4] NFS/RDMA client for v4.21 (part 1) Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:45 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] xprtrdma: Remove support for FMR memory registration Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 16:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-19 19:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-19 20:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-20 5:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-19 22:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-19 22:56 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2018-11-19 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 15:22 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2018-11-19 15:45 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] xprtrdma: mrs_create off-by-one Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:46 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] xprtrdma: Reduce max_frwr_depth Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:46 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] xprtrdma: Plant XID in on-the-wire RDMA offset (FRWR) Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 17:47 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 17:58 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 18:08 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 18:18 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 18:47 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 18:58 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 21:22 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 21:32 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 21:42 ` Mora, Jorge
2018-11-19 22:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 2:45 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 3:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 3:25 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 3:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 3:38 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 18:02 ` Anna Schumaker
2018-11-20 18:07 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <94ff7ec712e086bfdd9c217a5f97c293a07151b9.camel@gmail.com>
2018-11-20 21:31 ` Chuck Lever
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