From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: "Mora, Jorge" <Jorge.Mora@netapp.com>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/4] xprtrdma: Plant XID in on-the-wire RDMA offset (FRWR)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 20:09:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181120030916.GQ4890@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6e65bdf-6cdd-1a23-36de-71aeb57a22e0@talpey.com>
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 09:45:24PM -0500, Tom Talpey wrote:
> On 11/19/2018 5:46 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 09:42:56PM +0000, Mora, Jorge wrote:
> > > Hello Chuck,
> > >
> > > I am confused, is it the whole purpose of RDMA is to place the data
> > > directly into the memory location given by the virtual address or
> > > offset? What you are saying is that this offset is not the actual
> > > memory address and so the driver must map this offset to the actual
> > > address?
> >
> > All RDMA on the wire addresses are 'virtual' and always go through
> > translation hardware to reach a physical memory address. Even if you
> > have a virtual address that matches your physical address there will
> > still be translation hardware to enforce security.
> >
> > The direct placement refers to not copying data, not to using physical
> > memory addresses throughout the protocol design.
> >
> > So it is better to use a virtual address that doesn't disclose any
> > information about the host's configuration to the network, such as
> > physical locations of kernel memory.
>
> Agreed. And, this is a very subtle but very powerful aspect of FRWR
> registration, that the high-order bits of the "virtual address" can
> basically be any value of the requestor's (client's) choice.
>
> Note, the low-order bits, up to the maximum offset used by the upper
> layer (e.g. a few MB for NFS), must be reserved in order to allow RDMA
> segments to iterate over the range of bytes in the region. That's only
> 24 or so bits out of the available 64, here however.
Why does it depend on protocol?
So long as the adaptor can compute VA + Offset = Physical the upper
bits can be changed. For many adaptors that means PAGE_SIZE or huge
page size level alignment..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-20 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-19 15:45 [PATCH v1 0/4] NFS/RDMA client for v4.21 (part 1) Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:45 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] xprtrdma: Remove support for FMR memory registration Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 16:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-19 19:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-19 20:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-20 5:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-19 22:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-19 22:56 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 15:22 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2018-11-19 15:45 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] xprtrdma: mrs_create off-by-one Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:46 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] xprtrdma: Reduce max_frwr_depth Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 15:46 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] xprtrdma: Plant XID in on-the-wire RDMA offset (FRWR) Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 17:47 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 17:58 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 18:08 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 18:18 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 18:47 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 18:58 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 21:22 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-11-19 21:32 ` Chuck Lever
2018-11-19 21:42 ` Mora, Jorge
2018-11-19 22:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 2:45 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 3:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2018-11-20 3:25 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 3:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-20 3:38 ` Tom Talpey
2018-11-20 18:02 ` Anna Schumaker
2018-11-20 18:07 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <94ff7ec712e086bfdd9c217a5f97c293a07151b9.camel@gmail.com>
2018-11-20 21:31 ` Chuck Lever
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