From: James Smart <jsmart2021@gmail.com>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>
Cc: "Knight, Frederick" <Frederick.Knight@netapp.com>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
Shinichiro Kawasaki <shinichiro.kawasaki@wdc.com>,
"hare@suse.de" <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] nvmet: force reconnect when number of queue changes
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 13:15:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7872e4c7-54cc-08d6-e7a5-3510c3875e1d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74eb192e-13aa-5043-3016-5ce0d7ca2688@grimberg.me>
On 10/6/2022 4:37 AM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>
>>>> As far I can tell, what's is missing from a testing point of view is
>>>> the
>>>> ability to fail requests without the DNR bit set or the ability to tell
>>>> the host to reconnect. Obviously, an AEN would be nice for this but I
>>>> don't know if this is reason enough to extend the spec.
>>>
>>> Looking into the code, its the connect that fails on invalid parameter
>>> with a DNR, because the host is attempting to connect to a subsystems
>>> that does not exist on the port (because it was taken offline for
>>> maintenance reasons).
>>>
>>> So I guess it is valid to allow queue change without removing it from
>>> the port, but that does not change the fundamental question on DNR.
>>> If the host sees a DNR error on connect, my interpretation is that the
>>> host should not retry the connect command itself, but it shouldn't imply
>>> anything on tearing down the controller and giving up on it completely,
>>> forever.
>>
>> Okay, let me try to avoid the DNR discussion for now and propose
>> something else? What about adding a 'enable' attribute to the subsys?
>>
>> The snipped below does the trick. Though There is no explicit
>> synchronization between host and target, so it's possible the host
>> doesn't notice that the subsystem toggled enabled and updated the number
>> queues. But not sure if it's worth to address this, it feels a bit
>> over-engineered.
>
> I think that for the matter of this patch, you can keep force reconnect.
>
> But I still think we need to be consistent with the different transports
> on how we interperet controller returning DNR...
>
I agree - behavior should be the same regardless of transport. DNR is
pretty specific in its definition - "If the same command is re-submitted
to any controller in the NVM subsystem, then that re-submitted command
is expected to fail"
But, what we forget is "the command" is actually "command X with fields
set this way". If we change the fields, it may actually succeed.
So if we're re-issuing Connect in the same way without any changing
values, we're better off not reconencting. But if Connect changes,
we're back to ground 0.
-- james
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-06 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-27 14:31 [PATCH v2] nvmet: force reconnect when number of queue changes Daniel Wagner
2022-09-27 15:01 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-09-28 6:55 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-09-28 7:48 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-09-28 8:31 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-09-28 9:02 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-09-28 12:39 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-09-28 13:50 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-09-28 14:23 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-09-28 15:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-09-28 16:01 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-10-05 18:15 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-10-06 11:37 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-10-06 20:15 ` James Smart [this message]
2022-10-06 20:54 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-09-28 16:01 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-09-28 15:01 ` John Meneghini
2022-09-28 15:26 ` Daniel Wagner
2022-09-28 18:02 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-09-29 2:14 ` John Meneghini
2022-09-29 3:04 ` Knight, Frederick
2022-09-30 7:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-09-30 6:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
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