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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/28] Removing struct page from P2PDMA
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:54:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10b2b013-5b2e-f642-9524-9551809c03a3@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190628133837.GA3801@lst.de>



On 2019-06-28 7:38 a.m., Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:00:35PM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> It is not.  (c) is fundamentally very different as it is not actually
>>> an operation that ever goes out to the wire at all, and which is why the
>>> actual physical address on the wire does not matter at all.
>>> Some interfaces like NVMe have designed it in a way that it the commands
>>> used to do this internal transfer look like (b2), but that is just their
>>> (IMHO very questionable) interface design choice, that produces a whole
>>> chain of problems.
>>
>> >From the mapping device's driver's perspective yes, but from the
>> perspective of a submitting driver they would be the same.
> 
> With your dma_addr_t scheme it won't be the same, as you'd need
> a magic way to generate the internal addressing and stuff it into
> the dma_addr_t.  With a phys_addr_t based scheme they should basically
> be all the same.

Yes, I see the folly in the dma_addr_t scheme now. I like the
phys_addr_t ideas we have been discussing.

>> Yes, you did suggest them. But what I'm trying to suggest is we don't
>> *necessarily* need the lookup. For demonstration purposes only, a
>> submitting driver could very roughly potentially do:
>>
>> struct bio_vec vec;
>> dist = pci_p2pdma_dist(provider_pdev, mapping_pdev);
>> if (dist < 0) {
>>      /* use regular memory */
>>      vec.bv_addr = virt_to_phys(kmalloc(...));
>>      vec.bv_flags = 0;
>> } else if (dist & PCI_P2PDMA_THRU_HOST_BRIDGE) {
>>      vec.bv_addr = pci_p2pmem_alloc_phys(provider_pdev, ...);
>>      vec.bv_flags = BVEC_MAP_RESOURCE;
>> } else {
>>      vec.bv_addr = pci_p2pmem_alloc_bus_addr(provider_pdev, ...);
>>      vec.bv_flags = BVEC_MAP_BUS_ADDR;
>> }
> 
> That doesn't look too bad, except..
> 
>> -- And a mapping driver would roughly just do:
>>
>> dma_addr_t dma_addr;
>> if (vec.bv_flags & BVEC_MAP_BUS_ADDR) {
>>      if (pci_bus_addr_in_bar(mapping_pdev, vec.bv_addr, &bar, &off))  {
>>           /* case (c) */
>>           /* program the DMA engine with bar and off */
> 
> Why bother with that here if we could also let the caller handle
> that? pci_p2pdma_dist() should be able to trivially find that out
> based on provider_dev == mapping_dev.

True, in fact pci_p2pdma_dist() should return 0 in that case.

Though the driver will still have to do a range compare to figure out
which BAR the address belongs to and find the offset.

>> The real difficulty here is that you'd really want all the above handled
>> by a dma_map_bvec() so it can combine every vector hitting the IOMMU
>> into a single continuous IOVA -- but it's hard to fit case (c) into that
>> equation. So it might be that a dma_map_bvec() handles cases (a), (b1)
>> and (b2) and the mapping driver has to then check each resulting DMA
>> vector for pci_bus_addr_in_bar() while it is programming the DMA engine
>> to deal with case (c).
> 
> I'd do it the other way around.  pci_p2pdma_dist is used to find
> the p2p type.  The p2p type is stuff into the bio_vec, and we then:
> 
>  (1) manually check for case (c) in driver for drivers that want to
>      treat it different from (b)
>  (2) we then have a dma mapping wrapper that checks the p2p type
>      and does the right thing for the rest.

Sure, that could make sense.

I imagine there's a lot of details that are wrong or could be done
better in my example. The purpose of it was just to demonstrate that we
can do it without a lookup in an interval tree on the physical address.

Logan


  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-28 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-20 16:12 [RFC PATCH 00/28] Removing struct page from P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/28] block: Introduce DMA direct request type Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/28] block: Add dma_vec structure Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/28] block: Warn on mis-use of dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/28] block: Never bounce " Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 17:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:38     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/28] block: Skip dma-direct bios in bio_integrity_prep() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/28] block: Support dma-direct bios in bio_advance_iter() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/28] block: Use dma_vec length in bio_cur_bytes() for dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/28] block: Introduce dmavec_phys_mergeable() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/28] block: Introduce vec_gap_to_prev() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/28] block: Create generic vec_split_segs() from bvec_split_segs() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/28] block: Create blk_segment_split_ctx Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/28] block: Create helper for bvec_should_split() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/28] block: Generalize bvec_should_split() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/28] block: Support splitting dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/28] block: Support counting dma-direct bio segments Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/28] block: Implement mapping dma-direct requests to SGs in blk_rq_map_sg() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/28] block: Introduce queue flag to indicate support for dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/28] block: Introduce bio_add_dma_addr() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/28] nvme-pci: Support dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 20/28] IB/core: Introduce API for initializing a RW ctx from a DMA address Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:59     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 17:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:24         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 21/28] nvmet: Split nvmet_bdev_execute_rw() into a helper function Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 22/28] nvmet: Use DMA addresses instead of struct pages for P2P Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 23/28] nvme-pci: Remove support for PCI_P2PDMA requests Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 24/28] block: Remove PCI_P2PDMA queue flag Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 25/28] IB/core: Remove P2PDMA mapping support in rdma_rw_ctx Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 26/28] PCI/P2PDMA: Remove SGL helpers Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 27/28] PCI/P2PDMA: Remove struct pages that back P2PDMA memory Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 28/28] memremap: Remove PCI P2PDMA page memory type Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH 00/28] Removing struct page from P2PDMA Dan Williams
2019-06-20 19:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 20:18     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-20 20:51       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 17:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 17:54         ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24  7:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 13:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 13:50         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 13:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 16:53             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:28                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:54                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 19:37                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 16:10         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 19:34   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 23:40     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-20 23:42       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24  7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 15:57       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 17:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 19:54           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26  6:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-26 18:31               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:21                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:39                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-26 20:54                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:55                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:45                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 21:00                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 21:18                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27  6:32                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:09                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:35                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:49                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28  4:57                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 16:22                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 17:29                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 18:29                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 19:09                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 19:35                                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-07-02 22:45                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-02 22:52                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27  9:08                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-27 16:30                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 17:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-27 18:00                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 13:38                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-28 15:54                               ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-06-27  9:01                 ` Christoph Hellwig

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