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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 04/28] block: Never bounce dma-direct bios
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:38:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e4caa21-a148-00d1-a46f-18517fb744d6@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190620172347.GE19891@ziepe.ca>



On 2019-06-20 11:23 a.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:12:16AM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>> It is expected the creator of the dma-direct bio will ensure the
>> target device can access the DMA address it's creating bios for.
>> It's also not possible to bounce a dma-direct bio seeing the block
>> layer doesn't have any way to access the underlying data behind
>> the DMA address.
>>
>> Thus, never bounce dma-direct bios.
> 
> I wonder how feasible it would be to implement a 'dma vec' copy
> from/to? 

> That is about the only operation you could safely do on P2P BAR
> memory. 
> 
> I wonder if a copy implementation could somehow query the iommu layer
> to get a kmap of the memory pointed at by the dma address so we don't
> need to carry struct page around?

That sounds a bit nasty. First we'd have to determine what the
dma_addr_t points to; and with P2P it may be a bus address or it may be
an IOVA address and it would probably have to be based on whether the
IOVA is reserved or not (PCI bus addresses should all be reserved).
Second, if it is an IOVA then the we'd have to get the physical address
back from the IOMMU tables and hope we can then get it back to a
sensible kernel mapping -- and if it points to a PCI bus address we'd
then have to somehow get back to the kernel mapping which could be
anywhere in the VMALLOC region as we no longer have the linear mapping
that struct page provides.

I think if we need access to the memory, then this is the wrong approach
and we should keep struct page or try pfn_t so we can map the memory in
a way that would perform better.

In theory, I could relatively easily do the same thing I did for dma_vec
but with a pfn_t_vec. Though we'd still have the problem of determining
virtual address from physical address for memory that isn't linearly
mapped. We'd probably have to introduce some arch-specific thing to
linearly map an io region or something which may be possible on some
arches on not on others (same problems we have with struct page).

Logan

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-20 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-20 16:12 [RFC PATCH 00/28] Removing struct page from P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/28] block: Introduce DMA direct request type Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/28] block: Add dma_vec structure Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/28] block: Warn on mis-use of dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/28] block: Never bounce " Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 17:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:38     ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/28] block: Skip dma-direct bios in bio_integrity_prep() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/28] block: Support dma-direct bios in bio_advance_iter() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/28] block: Use dma_vec length in bio_cur_bytes() for dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/28] block: Introduce dmavec_phys_mergeable() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/28] block: Introduce vec_gap_to_prev() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/28] block: Create generic vec_split_segs() from bvec_split_segs() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/28] block: Create blk_segment_split_ctx Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/28] block: Create helper for bvec_should_split() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/28] block: Generalize bvec_should_split() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/28] block: Support splitting dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 15/28] block: Support counting dma-direct bio segments Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 16/28] block: Implement mapping dma-direct requests to SGs in blk_rq_map_sg() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 17/28] block: Introduce queue flag to indicate support for dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 18/28] block: Introduce bio_add_dma_addr() Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 19/28] nvme-pci: Support dma-direct bios Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 20/28] IB/core: Introduce API for initializing a RW ctx from a DMA address Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:59     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 17:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:24         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 21/28] nvmet: Split nvmet_bdev_execute_rw() into a helper function Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 22/28] nvmet: Use DMA addresses instead of struct pages for P2P Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 23/28] nvme-pci: Remove support for PCI_P2PDMA requests Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 24/28] block: Remove PCI_P2PDMA queue flag Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 25/28] IB/core: Remove P2PDMA mapping support in rdma_rw_ctx Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 26/28] PCI/P2PDMA: Remove SGL helpers Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 27/28] PCI/P2PDMA: Remove struct pages that back P2PDMA memory Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 16:12 ` [RFC PATCH 28/28] memremap: Remove PCI P2PDMA page memory type Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH 00/28] Removing struct page from P2PDMA Dan Williams
2019-06-20 19:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 20:18     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-20 20:51       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 17:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 17:54         ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24  7:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 13:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 13:50         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 13:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 16:53             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:28                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 18:54                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 19:37                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24 16:10         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 19:34   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-20 23:40     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-20 23:42       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-24  7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 15:57       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 17:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 19:54           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26  6:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-26 18:31               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:21                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:39                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-26 20:54                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:55                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 20:45                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 21:00                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-26 21:18                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27  6:32                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:09                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:35                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 16:49                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28  4:57                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 16:22                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 17:29                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 18:29                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 19:09                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 19:35                                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-07-02 22:45                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-02 22:52                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27  9:08                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-27 16:30                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27 17:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-27 18:00                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-28 13:38                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-28 15:54                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-27  9:01                 ` Christoph Hellwig

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