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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 16:04:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19e82a74-429a-3f86-119e-32b12082d0ff@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180524115039.GA10260@apalos>

On 24/05/18 12:50, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
>> Interesting, I hadn't thought about this use-case before. At first I
>> thought you were talking about mdev devices assigned to VMs, but I think
>> you're referring to mdevs assigned to userspace drivers instead? Out of
>> curiosity, is it only theoretical or does someone actually need this?
> 
> There has been some non upstreamed efforts to have mdev and produce userspace
> drivers. Huawei is using it on what they call "wrapdrive" for crypto devices and
> we did a proof of concept for ethernet interfaces. At the time we choose not to
> involve the IOMMU for the reason you mentioned, but having it there would be
> good.

I'm guessing there were good reasons to do it that way but I wonder, is
it not simpler to just have the kernel driver create a /dev/foo, with a
standard ioctl/mmap/poll interface? Here VFIO adds a layer of
indirection, and since the mediating driver has to implement these
operations already, what is gained?

Thanks,
Jean

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Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-11 19:06 [PATCH v2 00/40] Shared Virtual Addressing for the IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 01/40] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 20:41   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 17:00       ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-05 11:29   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:12       ` Christian König
2018-09-06 12:45         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07  8:55           ` Christian König
2018-09-07 15:45             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 18:02               ` Christian König
2018-09-07 21:25                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-08  7:29                   ` Christian König
2018-09-12 12:40                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-12 12:56                       ` Christian König
2018-09-13  7:15                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  7:26             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 02/40] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 13:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:43     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 11:29   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 23:31   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 16:43       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-24 11:50           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-24 15:04             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2018-05-25  6:33               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-25  8:39                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-26  2:24                   ` Kenneth Lee
     [not found]                   ` <20180526022445.GA6069@kllp05>
2018-06-11 16:10                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:32                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-17 14:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 12:14   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-05 18:18     ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-06 17:40       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:10     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/40] iommu/sva: Add a mm_exit callback for device drivers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 13:23   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:10     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/40] iommu/sva: Track mm changes with an MMU notifier Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 14:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/40] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/40] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:48     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-18 18:04   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-21 14:49     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 23:35       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-26  0:35           ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 10:00             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/40] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/40] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 10/40] mm: export symbol mm_access Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 11/40] mm: export symbol find_get_task_by_vpid Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 12/40] mm: export symbol mmput_async Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 13/40] vfio: Add support for Shared Virtual Addressing Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:51     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-23  9:38   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-24 11:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]       ` <5B06B17C.1090809@huawei.com>
2018-05-24 15:04         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25  2:39           ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-25  9:47             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]               ` <5B08DA21.3070507@huawei.com>
2018-05-29 11:55                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-29 12:24                   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-27  8:06   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-31 13:34     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-01  2:23       ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-03 10:34         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-04  2:12           ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-04 10:57             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05  3:15               ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-05 11:02                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06  7:26                   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 14/40] dt-bindings: document stall and PASID properties for IOMMU masters Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 15/40] iommu/of: Add stall and pasid properties to iommu_fwspec Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 16/40] arm64: mm: Pin down ASIDs for sharing mm with devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-15 14:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-05-17 10:01     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 17/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Link domains and devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 16:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:49     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-10 15:16   ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 18/40] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor out ARM LPAE register defines Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 19/40] iommu: Add generic PASID table library Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 20/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move context descriptor code Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 21/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Substream IDs Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-31 11:01   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-06-01 10:46     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 22/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add second level of context descriptor table Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 23/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share process page tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 24/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Seize private ASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 25/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for VHE Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 26/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable broadcast TLB maintenance Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 27/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add SVA feature checking Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 28/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement mm operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 29/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Hardware Translation Table Update Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 30/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Register I/O Page Fault queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 31/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Improve add_device error handling Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 32/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 33/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add stall support for platform devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 34/40] ACPI/IORT: Check ATS capability in root complex nodes Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 35/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI ATS Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-19 17:25   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-21 14:52     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 36/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Hook up ATC invalidation to mm ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 37/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Disable tagged pointers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 38/40] PCI: Make "PRG Response PASID Required" handling common Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 39/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PRI Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25 14:08   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-05-29 10:27     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 40/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker

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