From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/40] vfio: Add support for Shared Virtual Addressing
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:02:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b51107b8-a525-13ce-f4c3-d423b8502c27@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B8F4A59.20004@huawei.com>
On 05/09/2018 04:15, Xu Zaibo wrote:
>>> 1. While the series are finished well, VFIO-PCI device can be held
>>> by only one process
>>> through binding IOCTL command without PASID (without PASID
>>> being exposed user space).
>> It could, but isn't supported at the moment. In addition to adding
>> support in the I/O page fault code, we'd also need to update the VFIO
>> API. Currently a VFIO_TYPE1 domain always supports the MAP/UNMAP ioctl.
>> The case you describe isn't compatible with MAP/UNMAP, since the process
>> manages the shared address space with mmap or malloc. We'd probably need
>> to introduce a new VFIO IOMMU type, in which case the bind could be
>> performed implicitly when the process does VFIO_SET_IOMMU. Then the
>> process wouldn't need to send an additional BIND IOCTL.
> ok. got it. This is the legacy mode, so all the VFIO APIs are kept
> unchanged?
Yes, existing VFIO semantics are preserved
>>> 2. While using VFIO-PCI device to support multiple processes with
>>> SVA series, a primary
>>> process with multiple secondary processes must be deployed just
>>> like DPDK(https://www.dpdk.org/).
>>> And, the PASID still has to be exposed to user land.
>> Right. A third case, also implemented by this patch (and complete), is
>> the primary process simply doing a BIND for itself, and using the
>> returned PASID to share its own address space with the device.
>>
> ok. But I am worried that the sulotion of one primary processes with
> several secondary ones
>
> is a little bit limited. Maybe, users don't want to depend on the
> primary process. :)
I don't see a better way for vfio-pci, though. But more importantly, I
don't know of any users :) While the feature is great for testing new
hardware, and I've been using it for all kinds of stress testing, I
haven't received feedback from possible users in production settings
(DPDK etc) and can't speculate about what they'd prefer.
Thanks,
Jean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-05 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-11 19:06 [PATCH v2 00/40] Shared Virtual Addressing for the IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 01/40] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 20:41 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 17:00 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-05 11:29 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:12 ` Christian König
2018-09-06 12:45 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 8:55 ` Christian König
2018-09-07 15:45 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 18:02 ` Christian König
2018-09-07 21:25 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-08 7:29 ` Christian König
2018-09-12 12:40 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-12 12:56 ` Christian König
2018-09-13 7:15 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13 7:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 02/40] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 13:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:43 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 11:29 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 23:31 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 16:43 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-24 11:50 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-24 15:04 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25 6:33 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-25 8:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-26 2:24 ` Kenneth Lee
[not found] ` <20180526022445.GA6069@kllp05>
2018-06-11 16:10 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:32 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-17 14:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 12:14 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-05 18:18 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-06 17:40 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:10 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/40] iommu/sva: Add a mm_exit callback for device drivers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 13:23 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:10 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/40] iommu/sva: Track mm changes with an MMU notifier Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 14:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/40] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/40] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:48 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-18 18:04 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-21 14:49 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 23:35 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-26 0:35 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 10:00 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/40] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/40] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 10/40] mm: export symbol mm_access Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 11/40] mm: export symbol find_get_task_by_vpid Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 12/40] mm: export symbol mmput_async Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 13/40] vfio: Add support for Shared Virtual Addressing Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:51 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-23 9:38 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-24 11:44 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
[not found] ` <5B06B17C.1090809@huawei.com>
2018-05-24 15:04 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25 2:39 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-25 9:47 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
[not found] ` <5B08DA21.3070507@huawei.com>
2018-05-29 11:55 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-29 12:24 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-27 8:06 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-31 13:34 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-01 2:23 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-03 10:34 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-04 2:12 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-04 10:57 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 3:15 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-05 11:02 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2018-09-06 7:26 ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 14/40] dt-bindings: document stall and PASID properties for IOMMU masters Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 15/40] iommu/of: Add stall and pasid properties to iommu_fwspec Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 16/40] arm64: mm: Pin down ASIDs for sharing mm with devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-15 14:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-05-17 10:01 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 17/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Link domains and devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 16:07 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:49 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-10 15:16 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 18/40] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor out ARM LPAE register defines Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 19/40] iommu: Add generic PASID table library Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 20/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move context descriptor code Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 21/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Substream IDs Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-31 11:01 ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-06-01 10:46 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 22/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add second level of context descriptor table Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 23/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share process page tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 24/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Seize private ASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 25/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for VHE Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 26/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable broadcast TLB maintenance Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 27/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add SVA feature checking Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 28/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement mm operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 29/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Hardware Translation Table Update Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 30/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Register I/O Page Fault queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 31/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Improve add_device error handling Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 32/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 33/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add stall support for platform devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 34/40] ACPI/IORT: Check ATS capability in root complex nodes Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 35/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI ATS Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-19 17:25 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-21 14:52 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 36/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Hook up ATC invalidation to mm ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 37/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Disable tagged pointers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 38/40] PCI: Make "PRG Response PASID Required" handling common Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 39/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PRI Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25 14:08 ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-05-29 10:27 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 40/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
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