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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>
Cc: Dejin Zheng <zhengdejin5@gmail.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com,
	mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	wsa@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kw@linux.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Introduce pcim_alloc_irq_vectors()
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:51:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC/CfxHM2RMZLejc@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YC+euDIrR5apkAqp@rric.localdomain>

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:19:20PM +0100, Robert Richter wrote:
> On 18.02.21 16:01:56, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > The problem this series solves is an imbalanced API.
> 
> This (added) API is bloated and incomplete. It adds functions without
> benefit, the only is to have a single pcim alloc function in addition
> to the pairing of alloc/free functions. I agree, it is hard to detect
> which parts are released if pcim_enable_device() is used.

No, this API solves the above mentioned problem (what makes so special about
pci_free_irq_vectors() that it should be present?) Why do we have pcim_iomap*()
variations and not the rest?

The PCIm API is horrible in the sense of being used properly. Yes, I know how
it works and I was trying to help with that, the problem is that people didn't
and don't get how it works and stream of patches like the ones that add
pci_free_irq_vectors() are coming.

> Additional, you need to go through pcim_release() to add other
> pcim_*() functions for everything else that is released there.
> Otherwise that new API is still incomplete.

True. And here is the part that most annoying right now.
Btw, I never saw you fought against these small clean ups here and there, that
*add* explicit calls to freeing resources. Also I haven't noticed anybody
trying to correct documentation.

This series is a step to a right direction.

> But this adds another
> bunch of useless functions.

Wrong. This is quite useful to have balanced APIs. How many patches you have
seen related to the PCIm imbalanced APIs? I could tell from my experience, I
saw plenty and each time I'm trying to explain how it works people don't easily
get.

> > Christoph IIRC was clear that if we want to use PCI IRQ allocation API the
> > caller must know what's going on. Hiding this behind the scenes is not good.
> > And this series unhides that.
> 
> IMO, this is more a documentation issue. pcim_enable_device() must be
> better documented and list all enable/alloc functions that are going
> to be released out of the box later.
> 
> Even better, make sure everything is managed and thus all of a pci_dev
> is released, no matter how it was setup (this could even already be
> the case).
> 
> In addition you could implement a static code checker.

It's open source, why should we do that and not what we are proposing here?
Propose your ideas and we will discuss the patches, right?

> > Also, you may go and clean up all pci_free_irq_vectors() when
> > pcim_enable_device() is called, but I guess you will get painful process and
> > rejection in a pile of cases.
> 
> Why should something be rejected if it is not correctly freed?

Why it's not correctly freed? The function is idempotent.

> Even if pci_free_irq_vectors() is called, pcim_release() will not
> complain if it was already freed before. So using
> pci_free_irq_vectors() is ok even in conjunction with
> pcim_enable_device().

No, it's not okay from API namespace / semantics perspective.

> In the end, let's make sure everything is released in pci_dev if it is
> managed and document this.

Feel free to submit a patch!

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



      reply	other threads:[~2021-02-19 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 16:02 [PATCH v3 0/4] Introduce pcim_alloc_irq_vectors() Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 16:02 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] PCI: " Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 17:53   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-16 16:02 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Documentation: devres: Add pcim_alloc_irq_vectors() Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 17:10   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-17 10:50     ` Dejin Zheng
2021-02-17 13:44       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-16 16:02 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] i2c: designware: Use the correct name of device-managed function Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 17:46   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-17 11:40     ` Dejin Zheng
2021-02-17 13:47       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-18 14:15         ` Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 16:02 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] i2c: thunderx: " Dejin Zheng
2021-02-16 17:49   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-18  9:36 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Introduce pcim_alloc_irq_vectors() Robert Richter
2021-02-18 14:01   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-19 11:19     ` Robert Richter
2021-02-19 13:51       ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]

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