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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] OOM, PM: OOM killed task shouldn't escape PM suspend
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:54:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141105165428.GF14386@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141105163956.GD28226@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 05:39:56PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 05-11-14 11:29:29, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello, Michal.
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 05:01:15PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > I am not sure I am following. With the latest patch OOM path is no
> > > longer blocked by the PM (aka oom_killer_disable()). Allocations simply
> > > fail if the read_trylock fails.
> > > oom_killer_disable is moved before tasks are frozen and it will wait for
> > > all on-going OOM killers on the write lock. OOM killer is enabled again
> > > on the resume path.
> > 
> > Sure, but why are we exposing new interfaces?  Can't we just make
> > oom_killer_disable() first set the disable flag and wait for the
> > on-going ones to finish (and make the function fail if it gets chosen
> > as an OOM victim)?
> 
> Still not following. How do you want to detect an on-going OOM without
> any interface around out_of_memory?

I thought you were using oom_killer_allowed_start() outside OOM path.
Ugh.... why is everything weirdly structured?  oom_killer_disabled
implies that oom killer may fail, right?  Why is
__alloc_pages_slowpath() checking it directly?  If whether oom killing
failed or not is relevant to its users, make out_of_memory() return an
error code.  There's no reason for the exclusion detail to leak out of
the oom killer proper.  The only interface should be disable/enable
and whether oom killing failed or not.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-05 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21  7:27 [PATCH 0/4 -v2] OOM vs. freezer interaction fixes Michal Hocko
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] freezer: Do not freeze tasks killed by OOM killer Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] freezer: remove obsolete comments in __thaw_task() Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] OOM, PM: OOM killed task shouldn't escape PM suspend Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 13:14     ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 13:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 14:11         ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 14:41           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 14:29             ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-22 14:39               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-22 14:22                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-22 21:18                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-26 18:49               ` Pavel Machek
2014-11-04 19:27               ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 12:46                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 13:02                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 13:31                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 13:42                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 14:14                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 15:45                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 15:44                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 16:01                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 16:29                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 16:39                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 16:54                                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-11-05 17:01                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 13:05                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 15:09                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:01                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:12                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:31                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:33                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:58                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 17:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 17:55                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 12:49                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 15:01                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:02                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:28                                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-10 16:30                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                 ` [RFC 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 1/4] OOM, PM: Do not miss OOM killed frozen tasks Michal Hocko
2014-11-14 17:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 2/4] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 3/4] OOM, PM: handle pm freezer as an OOM victim correctly Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 4/4] OOM: thaw the OOM victim if it is frozen Michal Hocko
2014-11-14 20:14                                                   ` [RFC 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Tejun Heo
2014-11-18 21:08                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-18 21:10                                                       ` [RFC 1/2] oom: add helper for setting and clearing TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2014-11-18 21:10                                                         ` [RFC 2/2] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-11-27  0:47                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-02 22:08                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-04 14:16                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-04 14:44                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-04 16:56                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-04 17:18                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                 ` [PATCH 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 1/5] oom: add helpers for setting and clearing TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 12:56                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:13                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-07 17:57                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 18:23                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 2/5] OOM: thaw the OOM victim if it is frozen Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:06                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:24                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 10:45                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 13:59                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 18:55                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 3/5] PM: convert printk to pr_* equivalent Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 22:40                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-07 10:26                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:08                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 4/5] sysrq: " Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:09                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 5/5] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:11                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:11                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-07 18:41                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 18:48                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 11:51                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 10:09                                                   ` [PATCH 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 13:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 19:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-18 16:27                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 14:55                   ` [PATCH 3/4] OOM, PM: OOM killed task shouldn't escape PM suspend Michal Hocko
2014-10-26 18:40   ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 4/4] PM: convert do_each_thread to for_each_process_thread Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 13:19     ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 13:43       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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