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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"\\\"Rafael J. Wysocki\\\"" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:14:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141114201419.GI25889@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1415818732-27712-1-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz>

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 07:58:48PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Hi,
> here is another take at OOM vs. PM freezer interaction fixes/cleanups.
> First three patches are fixes for an unlikely cases when OOM races with
> the PM freezer which should be closed completely finally. The last patch
> is a simple code enhancement which is not needed strictly speaking but
> it is nice to have IMO.
> 
> Both OOM killer and PM freezer are quite subtle so I hope I haven't
> missing anything. Any feedback is highly appreciated. I am also
> interested about feedback for the used approach. To be honest I am not
> really happy about spreading TIF_MEMDIE checks into freezer (patch 1)
> but I didn't find any other way for detecting OOM killed tasks.

I really don't get why this is structured this way.  Can't you just do
the following?

1. Freeze all freezables.  Don't worry about PF_MEMDIE.

2. Disable OOM killer.  This should be contained in the OOM killer
   proper.  Lock out the OOM killer and disable it.

3. At this point, we know that no one will create more freezable
   threads and no new process will be OOM kliled.  Wait till there's
   no process w/ PF_MEMDIE set.

There's no reason to lock out or disable OOM killer while the system
is not in the quiescent state, which is a big can of worms.  Bring
down the system to the quiescent state, disable the OOM killer and
then drain PF_MEMDIEs.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-14 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21  7:27 [PATCH 0/4 -v2] OOM vs. freezer interaction fixes Michal Hocko
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] freezer: Do not freeze tasks killed by OOM killer Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] freezer: remove obsolete comments in __thaw_task() Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] OOM, PM: OOM killed task shouldn't escape PM suspend Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 13:14     ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 13:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 14:11         ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 14:41           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 14:29             ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-22 14:39               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-22 14:22                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-22 21:18                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-26 18:49               ` Pavel Machek
2014-11-04 19:27               ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 12:46                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 13:02                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 13:31                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 13:42                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 14:14                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 15:45                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 15:44                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 16:01                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 16:29                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 16:39                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 16:54                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-05 17:01                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 13:05                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 15:09                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:01                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:12                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:31                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:33                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:58                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 17:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 17:55                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 12:49                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 15:01                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 16:02                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-06 16:28                                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-10 16:30                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                 ` [RFC 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 1/4] OOM, PM: Do not miss OOM killed frozen tasks Michal Hocko
2014-11-14 17:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 2/4] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 3/4] OOM, PM: handle pm freezer as an OOM victim correctly Michal Hocko
2014-11-12 18:58                                                   ` [RFC 4/4] OOM: thaw the OOM victim if it is frozen Michal Hocko
2014-11-14 20:14                                                   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-11-18 21:08                                                     ` [RFC 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-11-18 21:10                                                       ` [RFC 1/2] oom: add helper for setting and clearing TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2014-11-18 21:10                                                         ` [RFC 2/2] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-11-27  0:47                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-02 22:08                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-04 14:16                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-04 14:44                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-04 16:56                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-04 17:18                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                 ` [PATCH 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 1/5] oom: add helpers for setting and clearing TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 12:56                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:13                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-07 17:57                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 18:23                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 2/5] OOM: thaw the OOM victim if it is frozen Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:06                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:24                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 10:45                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 13:59                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 18:55                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 3/5] PM: convert printk to pr_* equivalent Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 22:40                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-07 10:26                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:08                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 4/5] sysrq: " Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:09                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-05 16:41                                                   ` [PATCH -v2 5/5] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path raceless Michal Hocko
2014-12-06 13:11                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 10:11                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-07 18:41                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 18:48                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 11:51                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 10:09                                                   ` [PATCH 0/4] OOM vs PM freezer fixes Michal Hocko
2014-12-07 13:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-07 19:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-18 16:27                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-05 14:55                   ` [PATCH 3/4] OOM, PM: OOM killed task shouldn't escape PM suspend Michal Hocko
2014-10-26 18:40   ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-21  7:27 ` [PATCH 4/4] PM: convert do_each_thread to for_each_process_thread Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 12:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 13:19     ` Michal Hocko
2014-10-21 13:43       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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