Re: [PATCH 1/2] thermal: cooling: Check Energy Model type in cpufreq_cooling and devfreq_cooling

From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	amit daniel kachhap <amit.kachhap@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amitk@kernel.org>, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Pierre.Gondois@arm.com, Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@codeaurora.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] thermal: cooling: Check Energy Model type in cpufreq_cooling and devfreq_cooling
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:33:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=VntGw1_AzJPpdOk0zSpOVZRH2X1JNg84JX+zCeU1jvXg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120110a-7d01-0cfd-f7eb-d160e17ec2a8@arm.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:35 AM Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> On 2/9/22 10:17 PM, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 11:16:36AM +0000, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/8/22 5:25 PM, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 09:32:28AM +0000, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
> [snip]
>
> >>>> Could you point me to those devices please?
> >>>
> >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7180-trogdor-*
> >>>
> >>> Though as per above they shouldn't be impacted by your change, since the
> >>> CPUs always pretend to use milli-Watts.
> >>>
> >>> [skipped some questions/answers since sc7180 isn't actually impacted by
> >>>    the change]
> >>
> >> Thank you Matthias. I will investigate your setup to get better
> >> understanding.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> I've checked those DT files and related code.
> As you already said, this patch is safe for them.
> So we can apply it IMO.
>
>
> -------------Off-topic------------------
> Not in $subject comments:
>
> AFAICS based on two files which define thermal zones:
> sc7180-trogdor-homestar.dtsi
> sc7180-trogdor-coachz.dtsi
>
> only the 'big' cores are used as cooling devices in the
> 'skin_temp_thermal' - the CPU6 and CPU7.
>
> I assume you don't want to model at all the power usage
> from the Little cluster (which is quite big: 6 CPUs), do you?
> I can see that the Little CPUs have small dyn-power-coeff
> ~30% of the big and lower max freq, but still might be worth
> to add them to IPA. You might give them more 'weight', to
> make sure they receive more power during power split.
>
> You also don't have GPU cooling device in that thermal zone.
> Based on my experience if your GPU is a power hungry one,
> e.g. 2-4Watts, you might get better results when you model
> this 'hot' device (which impacts your temp sensor reported value).

I think the two boards you point at (homestar and coachz) are just the
two that override the default defined in the SoC dtsi file. If you
look in sc7180.dtsi you'll see 'gpuss1-thermal' which has a cooling
map. You can also see the cooling maps for the littles.

I guess we don't have a `dynamic-power-coefficient` for the GPU,
though? Seems like we should, but I haven't dug through all the code
here...

-Doug