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From: Max Krummenacher <max.oss.09@gmail.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/5] power: domain: Add driver for a PM domain provider which controls
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 18:10:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEHkU3VVM0zUsaKMUGeSzfbLmVJW6rqXGLv7TqaLTEQeXEVkUA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU+aOw_D3SR6714U_i5WhE8S-FCLdPJaf_+Fncz4aH8VA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:22 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:15 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 05:08:46PM +0200, Max Krummenacher wrote:
> > > From: Max Krummenacher <max.krummenacher@toradex.com>
> > >
> > > its power enable by using a regulator.
> > >
> > > The currently implemented PM domain providers are all specific to
> > > a particular system on chip.
> >
> > Yes, power domains tend to be specific to an SoC... 'power-domains' is
> > supposed to be power islands in a chip. Linux 'PM domains' can be
> > anything...

I don't see why such power islands should be restricted to a SoC. You can
build the exact same idea on a PCB or even more modular designs.

>
> > > This allows to use the "regulator-pm-pd" driver with an arbitrary
> > > device just by adding the 'power-domains' property to the devices
> > > device tree node. However the device's dt-bindings schema likely does
> > > not allow the property 'power-domains'.
> > > One way to solve this would be to allow 'power-domains' globally
> > > similarly how 'status' and other common properties are allowed as
> > > implicit properties.
> >
> > No. For 'power-domains' bindings have to define how many there are and
> > what each one is.
>
> IMO "power-domains" are an integration feature, i.e. orthogonal to the
> actual device that is part of the domain.  Hence the "power-domains"
> property may appear everywhere.
>
> It is actually the same for on-chip devices, as an IP core may be
> reused on a new SoC that does have power or clock domains.  For
> these, we managed to handle that fine because most devices do have
> some form of family- or SoC-specific compatible values to control if
> the power-domains property can be present/is required or not.
>
> But for off-chip devices, the integrator (board designed) can do
> whatever he wants.  Off-chip devices do have the advantage that it
> is usually well documented which power supply (if there are multiple)
> serves which purpose, which is not always clear for on-chip devices.
>
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
>                         Geert
>
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
>
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
>                                 -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-15 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 15:08 [PATCH v1 0/5] power: domain: Add driver for a PM domain provider which controls Max Krummenacher
2022-06-09 15:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] dt-bindings: power: Add bindings for a power domain controlled by a regulator Max Krummenacher
2022-06-10  2:57   ` Rob Herring
2022-06-15 15:19     ` Max Krummenacher
2022-06-15 17:16       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-14  7:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-15 15:18     ` Max Krummenacher
2022-06-09 15:08 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] pm: add regulator power domain controller Max Krummenacher
2022-06-09 15:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] MAINTAINERS: add REGULATOR POWER DOMAIN Max Krummenacher
2022-06-09 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/5] arm64: defconfig: Enable generic power domain controller controlling a regulator Max Krummenacher
2022-06-09 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/5] ARM64: verdin-imx8mm: use regulator power domain to model sleep-moci Max Krummenacher
2022-06-14  7:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-15 15:32     ` Max Krummenacher
2022-06-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] power: domain: Add driver for a PM domain provider which controls Rob Herring
2022-06-14  7:22   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-15 16:10     ` Max Krummenacher [this message]
2022-06-15 17:15       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-15 17:31         ` Marcel Ziswiler
2022-06-15 17:37           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-15 18:13             ` Marcel Ziswiler
2022-06-15 18:48               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-06-15 20:48               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-15 18:24           ` Robin Murphy
2022-06-15 19:12             ` Mark Brown
2022-06-15 21:14 ` Ulf Hansson
2022-06-16 12:50 ` Linus Walleij
2022-06-23 16:14   ` Max Krummenacher
2022-07-13 11:43     ` Ulf Hansson
2022-07-18  9:49       ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-26 16:03       ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-07-28  9:37         ` Ulf Hansson
2022-07-28 11:21           ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-08-26 13:50             ` Ulf Hansson
2022-09-09 14:22               ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-09-22 13:49                 ` Ulf Hansson
2022-09-23 18:00                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-26 10:12                     ` Ulf Hansson
2022-09-26 15:11                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-27  9:48                         ` Ulf Hansson
2022-09-27 12:49                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-27 14:26                             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-28  7:59                               ` Ulf Hansson

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