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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Stephan Gerhold <stephan@gerhold.net>,
	Viresh Kumar <vireshk@kernel.org>, Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Stephan Gerhold <stephan.gerhold@kernkonzept.com>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] OPP: Use _set_opp_level() for single genpd case
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:50:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFpgPdMLR12ajYFasCjm-Y-ZyVVtQz3j1CZVWfN9T3Gg0w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231106070830.7sd3ux3nvywpb54z@vireshk-i7>

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 08:08, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 03-11-23, 12:58, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > Are you saying that the OPP library should be capable of managing the
> > parent-clock-rates too, when there is a new rate being requested for a
> > clock that belongs to an OPP? To me, that sounds like replicating
> > framework specific knowledge into the OPP library, no? Why do we want
> > this?
>
> I am surely not touching clocks or any other framework :)
>
> > Unless I totally misunderstood your suggestion, I think it would be
> > better if the OPP library remained simple and didn't run recursive
> > calls, but instead relied on each framework to manage the aggregation
> > and propagation to parents.
>
> I see your point and agree with it.

Okay!

>
> Here is the problem and I am not very sure what's the way forward for this then:
>
> - Devices can have other devices (like caches) or genpds mentioned via
>   required-opps.
>
> - Same is true for genpds, they can also have required-opps, which may or may not
>   be other genpds.
>
> - When OPP core is asked to set a device's OPP, it isn't only about performance
>   level, but clk, level, regulator, bw, etc. And so a full call to
>   dev_pm_opp_set_opp() is required.
>
> - The OPP core is going to run the helper recursively only for required-opps and
>   hence it won't affect clock or regulators.

What if a required-opps has a clock or regulator? Doesn't that mean
that clocks/regulators could be called too?

>
> - But it currently affects genpds as they are mentioned in required-opps.
>
> - Skipping the recursive call to a parent genpd will require a special hack,
>   maybe we should add it, I am just discussing it if we should or if there is
>   another way around this.

Right, I see.

If this is only for required-opps and devices being hooked up to a PM
domain (genpd), my suggestion would be to keep avoiding doing the
propagation to required-opps-parents. For the similar reasons to why
we don't do it for clock/regulators, the propagation and aggregation,
seems to me, to belong better in genpd.

Did that make sense?

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-10 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-19 10:21 [RFT PATCH 0/2] OPP: Simplify required-opp handling Viresh Kumar
2023-10-19 10:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] OPP: Use _set_opp_level() for single genpd case Viresh Kumar
2023-10-19 11:16   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-20  3:45     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-20 10:02       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-20 10:56         ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-20 11:09           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-25  6:54     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 10:40       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-25 10:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 13:47         ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-10-25 15:24           ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 16:16             ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-10-26  9:53           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-30 10:29             ` Viresh Kumar
2023-11-03 11:58               ` Ulf Hansson
2023-11-06  7:08                 ` Viresh Kumar
2023-11-10 13:50                   ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2023-11-15  5:32                     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-11-16 10:44                       ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-19 10:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] OPP: Call dev_pm_opp_set_opp() for required OPPs Viresh Kumar
2023-10-24 11:18   ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-10-25  7:36     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 12:17       ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-10-25 15:20         ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 16:03           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-26  7:44             ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-25 13:51   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-10-25 15:09     ` Viresh Kumar

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