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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Felix Kuehling" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
	"kernel test robot" <lkp@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@intel.com>,
	"Mika Kuoppala" <mika.kuoppala@intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Chris Wilson" <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/25] dma-fence: prime lockdep annotations
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:54:53 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200710125453.GC23821@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c163d74-4a28-1d74-be86-099b4729a2e0@amd.com>

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 02:48:16PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> Am 10.07.20 um 14:43 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > Hi Jason,
> > > 
> > > Below the paragraph I've added after our discussions around dma-fences
> > > outside of drivers/gpu. Good enough for an ack on this, or want something
> > > changed?
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Daniel
> > > 
> > > > + * Note that only GPU drivers have a reasonable excuse for both requiring
> > > > + * &mmu_interval_notifier and &shrinker callbacks at the same time as having to
> > > > + * track asynchronous compute work using &dma_fence. No driver outside of
> > > > + * drivers/gpu should ever call dma_fence_wait() in such contexts.
> > I was hoping we'd get to 'no driver outside GPU should even use
> > dma_fence()'
> 
> My last status was that V4L could come use dma_fences as well.

I'm sure lots of places *could* use it, but I think I understood that
it is a bad idea unless you have to fit into the DRM uAPI?

You are better to do something contained in the single driver where
locking can be analyzed.

> I'm not 100% sure, but wouldn't MMU notifier + dma_fence be a valid use case
> for things like custom FPGA interfaces as well?

I don't think we should expand the list of drivers that use this
technique. 

Drivers that can't suspend should pin memory, not use blocked
notifiers to created pinned memory.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-10 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-07 20:12 [PATCH 00/25] dma-fence annotations, round 3 Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 01/25] dma-fence: basic lockdep annotations Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 14:57   ` Christian König
2020-07-08 15:12     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 15:19       ` Alex Deucher
2020-07-08 15:37         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:09           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09  7:32       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Stone
2020-07-09  7:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13 16:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13 16:39       ` Christian König
2020-07-13 20:31         ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 02/25] dma-fence: prime " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09  8:09   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 12:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 12:48       ` Christian König
2020-07-10 12:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-07-10 13:01           ` Christian König
2020-07-10 13:48             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 14:02               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 14:23                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 20:02                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 03/25] dma-buf.rst: Document why idenfinite fences are a bad idea Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09  7:36   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Stone
2020-07-09  8:04     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:11       ` Daniel Stone
2020-07-09 12:31         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 14:28           ` Christian König
2020-07-09 11:53   ` Christian König
2020-07-09 12:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf.rst: Document why indefinite " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:33     ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/virtio: Remove open-coded commit-tail function Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:48       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-07-09 14:05       ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-14  9:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-08-19 12:43       ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-19 12:47         ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-19 13:24         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-08-20  6:32           ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-21  7:01             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-07-10 12:30     ` [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf.rst: Document why indefinite fences are a bad idea Maarten Lankhorst
2020-07-14 17:46     ` Jason Ekstrand
2020-07-20 11:15     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21  7:41       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21  7:45         ` Christian König
2020-07-21  8:47           ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21  8:55             ` Christian König
2020-07-21  9:16               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21  9:24                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21  9:37               ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21  9:50                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 10:47                   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 13:59                     ` Christian König
2020-07-21 17:46                       ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 18:18                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 21:42                       ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-21 22:45             ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-22  6:45               ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22  7:11                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22  8:05                   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22  9:45                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 10:31                       ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 11:39                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 12:22                           ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 12:41                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 13:12                               ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 14:07                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 14:23                                   ` Christian König
2020-07-22 14:30                                     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 14:35                                       ` Christian König
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 04/25] drm/vkms: Annotate vblank timer Daniel Vetter
2020-07-12 22:27   ` Rodrigo Siqueira
2020-07-14  9:57     ` Melissa Wen
2020-07-14  9:59       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 14:55         ` Melissa Wen
2020-07-14 15:23           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 05/25] drm/vblank: Annotate with dma-fence signalling section Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 06/25] drm/amdgpu: add dma-fence annotations to atomic commit path Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 07/25] drm/komdea: Annotate dma-fence critical section in " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08  5:17   ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2020-07-14  8:34     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 08/25] drm/malidp: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-15 12:53   ` Liviu Dudau
2020-07-15 13:51     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 09/25] drm/atmel: Use drm_atomic_helper_commit Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:37   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-07 21:31   ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14  9:55     ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 10/25] drm/imx: Annotate dma-fence critical section in commit path Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 11/25] drm/omapdrm: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 12/25] drm/rcar-du: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 23:32   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-14  8:39     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 13/25] drm/tegra: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 14/25] drm/tidss: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08  9:01   ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 15/25] drm/tilcdc: Use standard drm_atomic_helper_commit Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08  9:17   ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-08  9:27     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08  9:44   ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 10:21     ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-08 14:20   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 11:16     ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-14  8:32       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 16/25] drm/atomic-helper: Add dma-fence annotations Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 17/25] drm/scheduler: use dma-fence annotations in main thread Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 18/25] drm/amdgpu: use dma-fence annotations in cs_submit() Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 19/25] drm/amdgpu: s/GFP_KERNEL/GFP_ATOMIC in scheduler code Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 10:49   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:40     ` Christian König
2020-07-14 14:31       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-15  9:17         ` Christian König
2020-07-15 11:53           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 20/25] drm/amdgpu: DC also loves to allocate stuff where it shouldn't Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:12   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 21/25] drm/amdgpu/dc: Stop dma_resv_lock inversion in commit_tail Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 22/25] drm/scheduler: use dma-fence annotations in tdr work Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 23/25] drm/amdgpu: use dma-fence annotations for gpu reset code Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 24/25] Revert "drm/amdgpu: add fbdev suspend/resume on gpu reset" Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 25/25] drm/amdgpu: gpu recovery does full modesets Daniel Vetter

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