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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:19:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210928131958.61b3abec.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210927231239.GE3544071@ziepe.ca>

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:12:39 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > +	enum { MAX_STATE = VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING };
> > > +	static const u8 vfio_from_state_table[MAX_STATE + 1][MAX_STATE + 1] = {
> > > +		[VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_STOP] = {
> > > +			[VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RUNNING] = 1,
> > > +			[VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING] = 1,
> > > +		},  
> > 
> > Our state transition diagram is pretty weak on reachable transitions
> > out of the _STOP state, why do we select only these two as valid?  
> 
> I have no particular opinion on specific states here, however adding
> more states means more stuff for drivers to implement and more risk
> driver writers will mess up this uAPI.

It looks like state transitions were largely discussed in v9 and v10 of
the migration proposals:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/1573578220-7530-2-git-send-email-kwankhede@nvidia.com/
https://lore.kernel.org/all/1576527700-21805-2-git-send-email-kwankhede@nvidia.com/

I'm not seeing that we really excluded many transitions there.

> So only on those grounds I'd suggest to keep this to the minimum
> needed instead of the maximum logically possible..
> 
> Also, probably the FSM comment from the uapi header file should be
> moved into a function comment above this function?

It's not clear this function shouldn't be anything more than:

	if (new_state > MAX_STATE || old_state > MAX_STATE)
		return false;	/* exited via device reset, */
				/* entered via transition fault */

	return true;

That's still only 5 fully interconnected states to work between, and
potentially a 6th if we decide _RESUMING|_RUNNING is valid for a device
supporting post-copy.

In defining the device state, we tried to steer away from defining it
in terms of the QEMU migration API, but rather as a set of controls
that could be used to support that API to leave us some degree of
independence that QEMU implementation might evolve.

To that extent, it actually seems easier for a device implementation to
focus on bit definition rather than the state machine node.

I'd also vote that any clarification of state validity and transitions
belongs in the uAPI header and a transition test function should
reference that header as the source of truth, rather than the other way
around.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-28 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1632305919.git.leonro@nvidia.com>
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 1/7] PCI/IOV: Provide internal VF index Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 21:59   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-23  6:35     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24 13:08       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-25 10:10         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-25 17:41           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-26  6:36             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-26 20:23               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-27 11:55                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-27 14:47                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 10:33   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-23 11:17     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:55       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-24  7:44         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-24  9:37           ` Kirti Wankhede
2021-09-26  9:09           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-26 16:17             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 18:24               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-27 18:29                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 22:46   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-27 23:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 19:19       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2021-09-28 19:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 20:18           ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 16:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 18:06               ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 18:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 10:57         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 10:44       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 12:35         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 13:26           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 13:50             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 14:36               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 15:17                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 15:28                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 16:14                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 21:48                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 22:44                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-30  9:25                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 12:41                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 23:21                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30  9:34                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 14:47                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 15:32                               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 16:24                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 16:51                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 17:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 3/7] vfio/pci_core: Make the region->release() function optional Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:57   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 4/7] net/mlx5: Introduce migration bits and structures Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24  5:48   ` Mark Zhang
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 5/7] net/mlx5: Expose APIs to get/put the mlx5 core device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 6/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Expose migration commands over mlx5 device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-28 20:22   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29  5:36     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 7/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Implement vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Leon Romanovsky

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