From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: "Jacopo Mondi" <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
"Thomas NIZAN" <tnizan@witekio.com>,
linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] media: i2c: Add MAX9271 subdevice driver
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 05:12:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YSMEKQbiF+d5ZCe3@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55551fab-cef1-45e1-5f39-158a7d9faa1b@ideasonboard.com>
Hello,
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:47:02PM +0100, Kieran Bingham wrote:
> On 17/08/2021 08:26, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> > Hello,
> > as noticed during the inclusion of the RDACM20/21 cameras, their driver make
> > use of a library driver that exports functions to control the MAX9271 GMSL
> > serializer embedded in the camera module.
> >
> > This series attempts to create an i2c subdevice driver for the MAX9271
> > serializer, to support the camera module operations using the v4l2 subdev
> > operations.
> >
> > The series is based on the currently in-review:
> > https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/project/linux-media/list/?series=5847
> > https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/project/linux-media/list/?series=5949
> >
> > The series:
> > 1) Introduced an i2c subdev driver for the MAX9271 GMSL serializer
> > 2) Adapt the RDACM20 driver by removing the MAX9271 handling from there
> > 3) Modify the DTS layout to describe the MAX9271 chip and the camera module
> > separately
> >
> > To be done:
> > - bindings
> > - handling of reset lines between max9271 and image sensor
> > - the camera module drivers could be made sensor drivers
> >
> > However I'm not fully convinced this really brings any benefit as the serializer
> > and the image sensor are actually packed together in the same camera module
> > and are tightly coupled.
> >
> > The biggest issue I'm facing, and for which I would be happy to receive pointers
> > to is the following one.
> >
> > The new DTS layout now looks like
> >
> > max9286 {
> >
> > i2c-mux {
> > i2c@0 {
> > max9271 {
> > }
> >
> > rdacm20{
> > }
> > }
> > }
> > }
>
> Is there any feasibility, or benefit to us modelling like:
>
> > max9286 {
> >
> > i2c-mux {
> > i2c@0 {
> > rdacm20 {
> > max9271{
> > }
> > ov13858{
> }
> > }
I don't see the point to be honest. If we have an rdacm20 device and a
corresponding driver, it's pointless to have the max9271 and ov13858
devices in DT. All the information needed would already be known to the
rdacm20 driver. A "detailed" DT description would only make sense if we
modelled the max9271 and ov13858, but not the rdacm20. In that case, I'd
make the ov13858 a child of the max9271.
I had misread this when replying to the cover letter btw, and thought
the rdacm20 node beside the max9271 was the ov13858.
> > }
> > }
> > }
>
> Perhaps that doesn't actually give much benefit, but I feel like the
> max9271 is a part of the rdacm20, so it should be contained within it,
> not besides it ..
>
> > If I do rely on the probe sequence implemented by the instantiation of the
> > i2c-mux child nodes:
> >
> > - max9286
> > -max9271
> > -sensor
> >
> > -max9271
> > -sensor
> >
> > ...
> >
> > As per each i2c-mux subnode the max9271 and the connected sensor are probed once
> > after the other.
> >
> > This unfortunately doesn't play well with the requirements of GMSL bus, for
> > which the post_register operation is being introduced. With the current
> > RDACM20/21 drivers and post_register in place with two cameras connected to the
> > system, the desired initialization sequence looks like:
> >
> > MAX9286 RDACM20/21
> >
> > probe()
> > |
> > ---------------------> |
> > camera 1 probe() {
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > v4l2 async bound {
> > completed = no
> > |
> > ---------------------> |
> > camera 2 probe() {
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > completed = yes
> >
> > compensate_amplitude()
> >
> > call post_register()
> > |-------------------->|
> > camera 1 post_register()
> > access camera registers()
> > }
> > |<-------------------
> > |-------------------->|
> > camera 2 post_register()
> > access camera registers()
> > }
> > |<-------------------
> > }
> >
> > Which guarantees that the bulk access to the camera registers happens after the
> > deserializer has compensated the channel amplitude.
> >
> > With the new model I do have a race between the sensor probe and the
> > post_register() of the serializer in case a single camera is connected.
> >
> > What happes is that as soon as the max9271 registers its async subdev the
> > max9286 notifier completes an call max9271->post_register(). But at that time
> > the sensor subdev has not probed yet, so there is no subdev on which to call
> > post_register in the max9271
> >
> > following:
> >
> > MAX9286 MAX9271 SENSOR
> >
> > probe()
> > |
> > ---------------------> |
> > probe() {
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > v4l2 async bound {
> > completed = yes
> > subdev->post_register()
> > |-------------------->|
> > post_register()
> > gmsl_bus_config()
> > subdev->post_register(NULL)
> > segfault
> > }
> > probe()
> > }
> > > If I instead do not use post_register() between the max9271 and the
> sensor,
> > then the model works for a single camera only (as it is implemented in this
> > version)
> >
> > MAX9286 MAX9271 SENSOR
> >
> > probe()
> > |
> > ---------------------> |
> > probe() {
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > v4l2 async bound {
> > completed = no
> > |-------------------->|
> > probe() {
> > i2c writes to
> > the sensor without
> > GMSL configuration
> > }
> > }
> >
> > So, my question is: are there examples on how to have the max9271 driver
> > control the probe time the connected sensor without relying on the probe
> > sequence of the I2C-mux device nodes ? If I could do so, what I would like to
> > realize looks like
> >
> > MAX9286 MAX9271 SENSOR
> >
> > probe()
> > |
> > ---------------------> |
> > camera 1 probe() {
> > --------------------->|
> > sensor probe()
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > v4l2 async bound {
> > completed = no
> > |-------------------->|
> > camera 2 probe() {
> > --------------------->|
> > sensor probe()
> > enable_threshold()
> > }
> > |<--------------------|
> > completed = yes
> >
> > compensate_amplitude()
> > for (subdev)
> > subdev->post_register()
> > |----------------->|
> > camera 1 post_register()
> > subdev->post_register()
> > --------------------->|
> > post_register()
> > i2c writes
> > subdev->post_register()
> > |----------------->|
> > camera 2 post_register()
> > subdev->post_register()
> > --------------------->|
> > post_register()
> > i2c writes
> > }
> >
>
> If we're still likely to have an RDACM20 container 'device' - I wonder
> if it's possible that it could be responsible for making sure both of
> it's subdevices (the max9271, and the sensor) are handled in the correct
> sequence...
>
> > I recall Mauro pointed me to an example when he first suggested to make the
> > MAX9271 library a proper i2c subdevice driver. Do you happen to recall which one
> > was it ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > j
> >
> > Jacopo Mondi (5):
> > media: i2c: max9271: Rename max9271 library driver
> > media: i2c: Add MAX9271 I2C driver
> > media: i2c: rdacm20: Adapt to work with MAX9271
> > media: i2c: max9286: Fetch PIXEL_RATE in s_stream
> > arm64: dts: GMSL: Adapt to the use max9271 driver
> >
> > MAINTAINERS | 17 +-
> > arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/gmsl-cameras.dtsi | 34 +-
> > .../arm64/boot/dts/renesas/r8a77970-eagle.dts | 6 +-
> > drivers/media/i2c/Kconfig | 12 +
> > drivers/media/i2c/Makefile | 3 +-
> > drivers/media/i2c/max9271-lib.c | 374 +++++++++++++
> > .../media/i2c/{max9271.h => max9271-lib.h} | 0
> > drivers/media/i2c/max9271.c | 528 +++++++++++++++---
> > drivers/media/i2c/max9286.c | 6 +-
> > drivers/media/i2c/rdacm20.c | 139 +----
> > drivers/media/i2c/rdacm21.c | 2 +-
> > 11 files changed, 917 insertions(+), 204 deletions(-)
> > create mode 100644 drivers/media/i2c/max9271-lib.c
> > rename drivers/media/i2c/{max9271.h => max9271-lib.h} (100%)
> >
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-23 2:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-17 7:26 [RFC 0/5] media: i2c: Add MAX9271 subdevice driver Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-17 7:26 ` [RFC 1/5] media: i2c: max9271: Rename max9271 library driver Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-18 12:48 ` Kieran Bingham
2021-08-23 2:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-17 7:27 ` [RFC 2/5] media: i2c: Add MAX9271 I2C driver Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-17 15:49 ` Kieran Bingham
2021-08-18 8:27 ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-18 12:38 ` Kieran Bingham
2021-08-23 2:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-23 7:21 ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-23 12:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-08-17 7:27 ` [RFC 3/5] media: i2c: rdacm20: Adapt to work with MAX9271 Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-17 7:27 ` [RFC 4/5] media: i2c: max9286: Fetch PIXEL_RATE in s_stream Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-23 2:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-23 7:20 ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-23 9:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-17 7:27 ` [RFC 5/5] arm64: dts: GMSL: Adapt to the use max9271 driver Jacopo Mondi
2021-08-18 12:47 ` [RFC 0/5] media: i2c: Add MAX9271 subdevice driver Kieran Bingham
2021-08-23 2:12 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2021-08-23 2:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-09-13 7:59 ` Jacopo Mondi
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