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From: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] sched/fair: Call newidle_balance() from finish_task_switch()
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:20:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89043649a64fc97dd90eb25c85bcc8f65483cf4f.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200428230204.GE16027@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 01:02 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 05:55:03PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 00:09 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > Also, if you move it this late, this is entirely the wrong place. If
> > > you
> > > do it after the context switch either use the balance_callback or put
> > > it
> > > in the idle path.
> > > 
> > > But what Valentin said; this needs a fair bit of support, the whole
> > > reason we've never done this is to avoid that double context switch...
> > > 
> > 
> > balance_callback() enters with the rq lock held but BH not separately
> 
> BH? softirqs you mean? Pray tell more.

In https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5122CD9C.9070702@oracle.com/ the need to
keep softirqs disabled during rebalance was brought up, but simply wrapping
the lock dropping in local_bh_enable()/local_bh_disable() meant that
local_bh_enable() would be called with interrupts disabled, which isn't
allowed.

> > disabled, which interferes with the ability to enable interrupts but not
> > BH.
> > It also gets called from rt_mutex_setprio() and __sched_setscheduler(),
> > and
> > I didn't want the caller of those to be stuck with the latency.
> 
> You're not reading it right.

Could you elaborate?

-Scott



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-28 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-28  5:02 [RFC PATCH 0/3] newidle_balance() latency mitigation Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] sched/fair: Call newidle_balance() from finish_task_switch() Scott Wood
2020-04-28 21:37   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-28 22:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 22:55       ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28 23:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 23:20           ` Scott Wood [this message]
2020-04-29  9:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30  1:31               ` Scott Wood
2020-05-11 10:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 12:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 22:33     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-29 12:00       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-29  8:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30  1:36     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched/fair: Enable interrupts when dropping lock in newidle_balance() Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] sched,rt: break out of load balancing if an RT task appears Scott Wood
2020-04-28 21:56   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-28 22:33     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28 22:52       ` Scott Wood
2020-04-29 12:01       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-28 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] newidle_balance() latency mitigation Steven Rostedt
2020-04-29 23:13 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30  7:44   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30 10:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 12:42       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30 13:56         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 12:48 ` Vincent Guittot

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