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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] sched,rt: break out of load balancing if an RT task appears
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:56:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjees7s29u.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200428050242.17717-4-swood@redhat.com>


On 28/04/20 06:02, Scott Wood wrote:
> From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
>
> Bugzilla: 1331562
>
> The CFS load balancer can take a little while, to the point of
> it having a special LBF_NEED_BREAK flag, when the task moving
> code takes a breather.
>
> However, at that point it will jump right back in to load balancing,
> without checking whether the CPU has gained any runnable real time
> (or deadline) tasks.
>
> Only idle_balance used to check for runnable real time tasks on a
> CPU. This patch moves that check into a separate inline function,
> and calls that function in load_balance, at approximately the same
> granularity that LBF_NEED_BREAK happens.
>
> Besides breaking out of load_balance, this patch also clears
> continue_balancing, in order for rebalance_domains to break out
> of its loop when a realtime task becomes runnable.
>
> Signed-off-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> Reported-by: Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c  | 19 +++++++++++++++++--
>  kernel/sched/sched.h |  6 ++++++
>  2 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index dfde7f0ce3db..e7437e4e40b4 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -9394,6 +9400,10 @@ static int should_we_balance(struct lb_env *env)
>       struct sched_group *sg = env->sd->groups;
>       int cpu, balance_cpu = -1;
>
> +	/* Run the realtime task now; load balance later. */
> +	if (rq_has_runnable_rt_task(env->dst_rq))
> +		return 0;
> +

I have a feeling this isn't very nice to CFS tasks, since we would now
"waste" load-balance attempts if they happen to coincide with an RT task
being runnable.

On your 72 CPUs machine, the system-wide balance happens (at best) every
72ms if you have idle time, every ~2300ms otherwise (every balance
CPU gets to try to balance however, so it's not as horrible as I'm making
it sound). This is totally worst-case scenario territory, and you'd hope
newidle_balance() could help here and there (as it isn't gated by any
balance interval).

Still, even for a single rq, postponing a system-wide balance for a
full balance interval (i.e. ~2 secs worst case here) just because we had a
single RT task running when we tried to balance seems a bit much.

It may be possible to hack something to detect those cases and reset the
interval to "now" when e.g. dequeuing the last RT task (& after having
previously aborted a load-balance due to RT/DL/foobar).

>       /*
>        * Ensure the balancing environment is consistent; can happen
>        * when the softirq triggers 'during' hotplug.
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> index 3d97c51544d7..a2a01dfd2bea 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -1878,6 +1878,12 @@ static inline struct cpuidle_state *idle_get_state(struct rq *rq)
>
>       return rq->idle_state;
>  }
> +
> +/* Is there a task of a high priority class? */
> +static inline bool rq_has_runnable_rt_task(struct rq *rq)
> +{
> +	return unlikely(rq->nr_running != rq->cfs.h_nr_running);

Seeing as that can be RT, DL or stopper, that name is somewhat misleading.

> +}
>  #else
>  static inline void idle_set_state(struct rq *rq,
>                                 struct cpuidle_state *idle_state)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-28 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-28  5:02 [RFC PATCH 0/3] newidle_balance() latency mitigation Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] sched/fair: Call newidle_balance() from finish_task_switch() Scott Wood
2020-04-28 21:37   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-28 22:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 22:55       ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28 23:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 23:20           ` Scott Wood
2020-04-29  9:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30  1:31               ` Scott Wood
2020-05-11 10:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 12:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-28 22:33     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-29 12:00       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-29  8:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30  1:36     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched/fair: Enable interrupts when dropping lock in newidle_balance() Scott Wood
2020-04-28  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] sched,rt: break out of load balancing if an RT task appears Scott Wood
2020-04-28 21:56   ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-04-28 22:33     ` Scott Wood
2020-04-28 22:52       ` Scott Wood
2020-04-29 12:01       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-28 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] newidle_balance() latency mitigation Steven Rostedt
2020-04-29 23:13 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30  7:44   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30 10:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 12:42       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30 13:56         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 12:48 ` Vincent Guittot

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