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From: Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	RDMA mailing list <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/6] net/smc: Spread workload over multiple cores
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 17:49:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgOOIGDx9/0cwsCV@TonyMac-Alibaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6739dd5f-aaa9-dce9-4b06-08060fe267da@linux.ibm.com>

On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 05:50:48PM +0100, Karsten Graul wrote:
> On 28/01/2022 07:55, Tony Lu wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 03:52:36PM +0100, Karsten Graul wrote:
> >> On 27/01/2022 10:50, Tony Lu wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:25:41AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 05:14:35PM +0800, Tony Lu wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:47:09AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 03:59:36PM +0800, Tony Lu wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry for that if I missed something about properly using existing
> >>>>> in-kernel API. I am not sure the proper API is to use ib_cq_pool_get()
> >>>>> and ib_cq_pool_put()?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so, these APIs doesn't suit for current smc's usage, I have to
> >>>>> refactor logic (tasklet and wr_id) in smc. I think it is a huge work
> >>>>> and should do it with full discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> This discussion is not going anywhere. Just to summarize, we (Jason and I)
> >>>> are asking to use existing API, from the beginning.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I can't agree more with you about using existing API and I have
> >>> tried them earlier. The existing APIs are easy to use if I wrote a new
> >>> logic. I also don't want to repeat the codes.
> >>>
> >>> The main obstacle is that the packet and wr processing of smc is
> >>> tightly bound to the old API and not easy to replace with existing API.
> >>>
> >>> To solve a real issue, I have to fix it based on the old API. If using
> >>> existing API in this patch, I have to refactor smc logics which needs
> >>> more time. Our production tree is synced with smc next. So I choose to
> >>> fix this issue first, then refactor these logic to fit existing API once
> >>> and for all.
> >>
> >> While I understand your approach to fix the issue first I need to say
> >> that such interim fixes create an significant amount of effort that has to
> >> be spent for review and test for others. And there is the increased risk 
> >> to introduce new bugs by just this only-for-now fix.
> > 
> > Let's back to this patch itself. This approach spreads CQs to different
> > vectors, it tries to solve this issue under current design and not to
> > introduce more changes to make it easier to review and test. It severely
> > limits the performance of SMC when replacing TCP. This patch tries to
> > reduce the gap between SMC and TCP.
> > 
> > To use newer API, it should have a lots of work to do with wr process
> > logic, for example remove tasklet handler, refactor wr_id logic. I have
> > no idea if we should do this? If it's okay and got your permission, I
> > will do this in the next patch.
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> I think there was quite a discussion now about this patch series and the conclusion from 
> the RDMA list and from my side was that if this code is changed it should be done using
> the new API. The current version re-implements code that is already available there.
> 
> I agree that using the new API is the way to go, and I am in for any early discussions
> about the changes that are needed.
> 

Thank you for pointing me to the sure way.

I am working on this. I will send the complete refactor version with the
new API later.

Best regards,
Tony Lu

      reply	other threads:[~2022-02-09  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14  5:48 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/6] net/smc: Spread workload over multiple cores Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/6] net/smc: Spread CQs to differents completion vectors Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/6] net/smc: Prepare for multiple CQs per IB devices Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/6] net/smc: Introduce smc_ib_cq to bind link and cq Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 4/6] net/smc: Multiple CQs per IB devices Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 5/6] net/smc: Unbind buffer size from clcsock and make it tunable Tony Lu
2022-01-14  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 6/6] net/smc: Introduce tunable linkgroup max connections Tony Lu
2022-01-16  9:00 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/6] net/smc: Spread workload over multiple cores Leon Romanovsky
2022-01-16 17:47   ` Tony Lu
2022-01-26  7:23   ` Tony Lu
2022-01-26 15:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-27  3:14       ` Tony Lu
2022-01-27  6:21         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-01-27  7:59           ` Tony Lu
2022-01-27  8:47             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-01-27  9:14               ` Tony Lu
2022-01-27  9:25                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-01-27  9:50                   ` Tony Lu
2022-01-27 14:52                     ` Karsten Graul
2022-01-28  6:55                       ` Tony Lu
2022-02-01 16:50                         ` Karsten Graul
2022-02-09  9:49                           ` Tony Lu [this message]

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