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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	Ed Tsai <ed.tsai@mediatek.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] block: Make fair tag sharing configurable
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 16:04:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbrR7-DcBSS7V9B7@kbusch-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2469774-8ebb-4faf-af3b-c9426b8591d4@acm.org>

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:42:30PM -0800, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 1/31/24 13:37, Keith Busch wrote:
> > What if all the tags are used by one queue and all the tags are
> > performing long running operations? Sure, sbitmap might wake up the
> > longest waiter, but that could be hours.
> 
> I have not yet encountered any storage driver that needs hours to
> process a single request. Can you give an example of a storage device
> that is that slow?

I didn't have anything in mind; just that protocols don't require all
commands be fast.

NVMe has wait event commands that might not ever complete.

A copy command requesting multiple terabyes won't be quick for even the
fastest hardware (not "hours", but not fast).

If hardware stops responding, the tags are locked up for as long as it
takes recovery escalation to reclaim them. For nvme, error recovery
could take over a minute by default.

Anyway, even with sbitmap approach, it's possible most of the waiting
threads are for the greedy queue and will be selected ahead of the
others. Relying on sbitmap might eventually get forward progress, but
maybe not fair.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 19:31 [PATCH v6 0/6] Disable fair tag sharing for UFS devices Bart Van Assche
2023-11-30 19:31 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] block: Make fair tag sharing configurable Bart Van Assche
2023-12-01 12:52   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-12-01 22:14     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-02  7:21   ` Yu Kuai
2023-12-04  4:13     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-25 12:51       ` Yu Kuai
2023-12-26  2:22         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-11 19:22         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-12  1:08           ` Yu Kuai
2024-01-12  4:39             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-14  3:22               ` Yu Kuai
2024-01-15  5:59                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-15  6:18                   ` Yu Kuai
2024-01-16  2:59                     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-16 10:24                       ` Yu Kuai
2024-01-16 17:36                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-18  7:31                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-18 18:40                             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-23  9:13                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-23 15:16                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-24  9:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-30  0:03                                     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-31  6:22                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 21:32                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-31 21:37                                           ` Keith Busch
2024-01-31 21:42                                             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-31 23:04                                               ` Keith Busch [this message]
2024-01-31 23:41                                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-31 23:52                                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-01-16  2:52                   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-11-30 19:31 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] scsi: core: Make fair tag sharing configurable in the host template Bart Van Assche
2023-11-30 19:31 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] scsi: core: Make fair tag sharing configurable via sysfs Bart Van Assche
2023-11-30 19:31 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] scsi: ufs: Disable fair tag sharing Bart Van Assche
2023-12-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] Disable fair tag sharing for UFS devices Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-05  3:15   ` Bart Van Assche

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