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From: Scott Branden <scott.branden@broadcom.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	rafael@kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com, jeyu@kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org, keescook@chromium.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, eparis@parisplace.org,
	nayna@linux.ibm.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, bauerman@linux.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] fs: reduce export usage of kerne_read*() calls
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 15:24:32 -0700
Message-ID: <7525ca03-def7-dfe2-80a9-25270cb0ae05@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1589805462.5111.107.camel@linux.ibm.com>

Hi Mimi,

On 2020-05-18 5:37 a.m., Mimi Zohar wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
>
> On Sun, 2020-05-17 at 23:22 -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 09:29:33PM +0000, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:17:36AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> Can you also move kernel_read_* out of fs.h?  That header gets pulled
>>>> in just about everywhere and doesn't really need function not related
>>>> to the general fs interface.
>>> Sure, where should I dump these?
>> Maybe a new linux/kernel_read_file.h?  Bonus points for a small top
>> of the file comment explaining the point of the interface, which I
>> still don't get :)
> Instead of rolling your own method of having the kernel read a file,
> which requires call specific security hooks, this interface provides a
> single generic set of pre and post security hooks.  The
> kernel_read_file_id enumeration permits the security hook to
> differentiate between callers.
>
> To comply with secure and trusted boot concepts, a file cannot be
> accessible to the caller until after it has been measured and/or the
> integrity (hash/signature) appraised.
>
> In some cases, the file was previously read twice, first to measure
> and/or appraise the file and then read again into a buffer for
> use.  This interface reads the file into a buffer once, calls the
> generic post security hook, before providing the buffer to the caller.
>   (Note using firmware pre-allocated memory might be an issue.)
>
> Partial reading firmware will result in needing to pre-read the entire
> file, most likely on the security pre hook.
The entire file may be very large and not fit into a buffer.
Hence one of the reasons for a partial read of the file.
For security purposes, you need to change your code to limit the amount
of data it reads into a buffer at one time to not consume or run out of 
much memory.
>
> Mimi
Scott

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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 15:21 Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-13 15:21 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: unexport kernel_read_file() Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-13 15:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] security: add symbol namespace for reading file data Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-13 15:40   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-13 16:09     ` Greg KH
2020-05-13 16:16     ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-13 16:26       ` Greg KH
2020-05-13 18:07       ` Josh Triplett
2020-05-13 15:21 ` [PATCH 3/3] fs: move kernel_read*() calls to its own symbol namespace Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-13 16:08   ` Greg KH
2020-05-13 18:17 ` [PATCH 0/3] fs: reduce export usage of kerne_read*() calls Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-15 21:29   ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18  6:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-18 12:37       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-05-18 15:21         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-22 22:24         ` Scott Branden [this message]
2020-05-22 23:04           ` Kees Cook
2020-05-22 23:25             ` Scott Branden
2020-05-24  2:52               ` Mimi Zohar
2020-06-05 18:15                 ` Scott Branden
2020-06-05 18:37                   ` Mimi Zohar

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