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From: Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>
To: "Dr. Greg" <greg@enjellic.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Haitao Huang <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] x86/vdso: Add __vdso_sgx_enter_enclave() to wrap SGX enclave transitions
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 18:19:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f036e41f-8b93-cab3-07fd-641354e60b35@fortanix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181207163127.GA23494@wind.enjellic.com>

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On 2018-12-07 22:01, Dr. Greg wrote:
> Baidu and Fortanix are working on Trusted RunTime Systems (TRTS) based
> on RUST, I believe, so this will affect them to the extent that they
> are implementing their own low level enclave runtime support or they
> may be simply building on top of the low level Intel TRTS.  Perhaps
> Jethro would comment on these issues if he could.

As far as I know, Baidu merely provides Rust bindings to the Intel SDK. 
As far as our requirements, I've sent those in my previous email.

> I'm assuming that in the proposed model the URTS would interrogate the
> VDSO to determine the availability of entry and exception handling
> support and then setup the appropriate infrastructure and exit
> handler?  VDSO's are typically the domain of the system library.
> Given the nature of SGX I couldn't even conceive of Glibc offering
> support and, if it was acceptable to provide support, the potential
> timeframe that would be involved in seeing deployment in the field.
> 
> As a result, do you anticipate the need for a 'flag day' with respect
> to URTS/PSW/SDK support for all of this?

It is my understanding that the use of the vDSO enclave entry will be 
optional. i.e., if your application/library/enclave combination installs 
a signal handler and calls ENCLU directly, that would still work. Of 
course, using the vDSO will be very strongly recommended.

--
Jethro Beekman | Fortanix


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-07 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20181206221922.31012-1-sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20181206221922.31012-5-sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
     [not found]   ` <CALCETrXRJ645=08fyeoMQ949fLB1TvhsgERFVx5mAHdViEjq8Q@mail.gmail.com>
2018-12-07 16:51     ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] x86/vdso: Add __vdso_sgx_enter_enclave() to wrap SGX enclave transitions Sean Christopherson
2018-12-07 17:56       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 19:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-07 19:23           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 20:09             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-07 20:16               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 20:35                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-07 21:26                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-07 23:33                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 19:31                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-11 20:04                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 22:00                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-11 23:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 18:15   ` Jethro Beekman
2018-12-07 18:44     ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-07 18:50       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-08  8:15       ` Jethro Beekman
2018-12-14 15:04         ` Sean Christopherson
     [not found]   ` <20181207163127.GA23494@wind.enjellic.com>
2018-12-07 18:19     ` Jethro Beekman [this message]

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