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From: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 56/65] clk: ingenic: cgu: Switch to determine_rate
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2022 10:33:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <IOEVKR.TWFKJND2FJ473@crapouillou.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221104145946.orsyrhiqvypisl5j@houat>

Hi Maxime,

Le ven. 4 nov. 2022 à 15:59:46 +0100, Maxime Ripard 
<maxime@cerno.tech> a écrit :
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 02:31:20PM +0000, Paul Cercueil wrote:
>>  Le ven. 4 nov. 2022 à 14:18:13 +0100, Maxime Ripard 
>> <maxime@cerno.tech> a
>>  écrit :
>>  > The Ingenic CGU clocks implements a mux with a set_parent hook, 
>> but
>>  > doesn't provide a determine_rate implementation.
>>  >
>>  > This is a bit odd, since set_parent() is there to, as its name 
>> implies,
>>  > change the parent of a clock. However, the most likely candidate 
>> to
>>  > trigger that parent change is a call to clk_set_rate(), with
>>  > determine_rate() figuring out which parent is the best suited for 
>> a
>>  > given rate.
>>  >
>>  > The other trigger would be a call to clk_set_parent(), but it's 
>> far less
>>  > used, and it doesn't look like there's any obvious user for that 
>> clock.
>>  >
>>  > So, the set_parent hook is effectively unused, possibly because 
>> of an
>>  > oversight. However, it could also be an explicit decision by the
>>  > original author to avoid any reparenting but through an explicit 
>> call to
>>  > clk_set_parent().
>>  >
>>  > The driver does implement round_rate() though, which means that 
>> we can
>>  > change the rate of the clock, but we will never get to change the
>>  > parent.
>>  >
>>  > However, It's hard to tell whether it's been done on purpose or 
>> not.
>>  >
>>  > Since we'll start mandating a determine_rate() implementation, 
>> let's
>>  > convert the round_rate() implementation to a determine_rate(), 
>> which
>>  > will also make the current behavior explicit. And if it was an
>>  > oversight, the clock behaviour can be adjusted later on.
>> 
>>  So it's partly on purpose, partly because I didn't know about
>>  .determine_rate.
>> 
>>  There's nothing odd about having a lonely .set_parent callback; in 
>> my case
>>  the clocks are parented from the device tree.
>> 
>>  Having the clocks driver trigger a parent change when requesting a 
>> rate
>>  change sounds very dangerous, IMHO. My MMC controller can be 
>> parented to the
>>  external 48 MHz oscillator, and if the card requests 50 MHz, it 
>> could switch
>>  to one of the PLLs. That works as long as the PLLs don't change 
>> rate, but if
>>  one is configured as driving the CPU clock, it becomes messy.
>>  The thing is, the clocks driver has no way to know whether or not 
>> it is
>>  "safe" to use a designated parent.
>> 
>>  For that reason, in practice, I never actually want to have a clock
>>  re-parented - it's almost always a bad idea vs. sticking to the 
>> parent clock
>>  configured in the DTS.
> 
> Yeah, and this is totally fine. But we need to be explicit about it. 
> The
> determine_rate implementation I did in all the patches is an exact
> equivalent to the round_rate one if there was one. We will never ask 
> to
> change the parent.
> 
> Given what you just said, I would suggest to set the
> CLK_SET_RATE_NO_REPARENT flag as well.

But that would introduce policy into the driver... The fact that I 
don't want the MMC parented to the PLLs, doesn't mean that it's an 
invalid configuration per se.

Cheers,
-Paul

>> 
>>  > Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
>>  > ---
>>  >  drivers/clk/ingenic/cgu.c | 15 ++++++++-------
>>  >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>  >
>>  > diff --git a/drivers/clk/ingenic/cgu.c b/drivers/clk/ingenic/cgu.c
>>  > index 1f7ba30f5a1b..0c9c8344ad11 100644
>>  > --- a/drivers/clk/ingenic/cgu.c
>>  > +++ b/drivers/clk/ingenic/cgu.c
>>  > @@ -491,22 +491,23 @@ ingenic_clk_calc_div(struct clk_hw *hw,
>>  >  	return div;
>>  >  }
>>  >
>>  > -static long
>>  > -ingenic_clk_round_rate(struct clk_hw *hw, unsigned long req_rate,
>>  > -		       unsigned long *parent_rate)
>>  > +static int ingenic_clk_determine_rate(struct clk_hw *hw,
>>  > +				      struct clk_rate_request *req)
>>  >  {
>>  >  	struct ingenic_clk *ingenic_clk = to_ingenic_clk(hw);
>>  >  	const struct ingenic_cgu_clk_info *clk_info =
>>  > to_clk_info(ingenic_clk);
>>  >  	unsigned int div = 1;
>>  >
>>  >  	if (clk_info->type & CGU_CLK_DIV)
>>  > -		div = ingenic_clk_calc_div(hw, clk_info, *parent_rate, 
>> req_rate);
>>  > +		div = ingenic_clk_calc_div(hw, clk_info, req->best_parent_rate,
>>  > +					   req->rate);
>> 
>>  Sorry but I'm not sure that this works.
>> 
>>  You replace the "parent_rate" with the "best_parent_rate", and that 
>> means
>>  you only check the requested rate vs. the parent with the highest 
>> frequency,
>>  and not vs. the actual parent that will be used.
> 
> best_parent_rate is initialized to the current parent rate, not the
> parent with the highest frequency:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1-rc3/source/drivers/clk/clk.c#L1471
> 
> Maxime



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-05 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-0-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-56-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-04 14:31   ` [PATCH v2 56/65] clk: ingenic: cgu: Switch to determine_rate Paul Cercueil
2022-11-04 14:59     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-04 17:35       ` Aidan MacDonald
2022-11-07  8:54         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-07 20:57           ` Aidan MacDonald
2022-11-09 11:00             ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]               ` <06a293adc75990ed3e297b076fc38d8a.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-23 15:35                 ` Aidan MacDonald
2023-03-24 11:19                   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-24 20:58                     ` Aidan MacDonald
2023-03-27 19:24                       ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-05 12:57                         ` Paul Cercueil
2023-04-05 14:50                           ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-05 15:29                             ` Paul Cercueil
2022-11-05 10:33       ` Paul Cercueil [this message]
2022-11-09 10:53         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-09 11:36           ` Paul Cercueil
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-43-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-04 15:44   ` [PATCH v2 43/65] ASoC: tlv320aic32x4: Add a determine_rate hook Mark Brown
2022-11-04 15:51     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-04 15:59       ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07  8:43         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-07 12:06           ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07 15:26             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-07 16:02               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <5819b1362f35ce306e1b6d566bfd44e5.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-29 19:50                 ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-21-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-04 16:45   ` [PATCH v2 21/65] clk: davinci: da8xx-cfgchip: " David Lechner
2022-11-07 12:06     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-07 14:52       ` David Lechner
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-22-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-04 16:46   ` [PATCH v2 22/65] " David Lechner
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-54-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-04 16:49   ` [PATCH v2 54/65] clk: da8xx: clk48: Switch to determine_rate David Lechner
2022-11-07 14:52     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-28-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-07  7:51   ` [PATCH v2 28/65] clk: renesas: r9a06g032: Add a determine_rate hook Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-65-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-07 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 65/65] clk: Warn if we register a mux without determine_rate Charles Keepax
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-20-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-07 10:58   ` [PATCH v2 20/65] clk: wm831x: clkout: Add a determine_rate hook Charles Keepax
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-34-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-08 13:25   ` [PATCH v2 34/65] clk: ux500: prcmu: " Linus Walleij
2022-11-09 11:05     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-35-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-08 13:27   ` [PATCH v2 35/65] clk: ux500: sysctrl: " Linus Walleij
2022-11-10 11:28   ` Ulf Hansson
2022-11-10 11:39     ` Linus Walleij
2022-11-10 13:05       ` Ulf Hansson
2022-11-11  9:20         ` Linus Walleij
2022-11-14  9:05           ` Lee Jones
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-58-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-09  2:43   ` [PATCH v2 58/65] clk: sprd: composite: Switch to determine_rate Chunyan Zhang
     [not found] ` <20221018-clk-range-checks-fixes-v2-13-f6736dec138e@cerno.tech>
2022-11-13 22:35   ` [PATCH v2 13/65] clk: lmk04832: clkout: Add a determine_rate hook Liam Beguin
     [not found] ` <f804380a14c346fdbbf3286bcb40b3c2.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-03-22 10:01   ` [PATCH v2 00/65] clk: Make determine_rate mandatory for muxes Maxime Ripard

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