From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: "Christian Kohlschütter" <christian@kohlschutter.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [REGRESSION] ovl: Handle ENOSYS when fileattr support is missing in lower/upper fs
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 15:13:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegvBSCQwkCv=5LJDx1LRCN_ztTh9VMvrTbCyt0zf7W2trw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A31096BA-C128-4D0B-B27D-C34560844ED0@kohlschutter.com>
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 at 15:03, Christian Kohlschütter
<christian@kohlschutter.com> wrote:
>
> Am 18.07.2022 um 14:21 schrieb Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>:
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 at 12:56, Christian Kohlschütter
> > <christian@kohlschutter.com> wrote:
> >
> >> However, users of fuse that have no business with overlayfs suddenly see their ioctl return ENOTTY instead of ENOSYS.
> >
> > And returning ENOTTY is the correct behavior. See this comment in
> > <asm-generic/errrno.h>:
> >
> > /*
> > * This error code is special: arch syscall entry code will return
> > * -ENOSYS if users try to call a syscall that doesn't exist. To keep
> > * failures of syscalls that really do exist distinguishable from
> > * failures due to attempts to use a nonexistent syscall, syscall
> > * implementations should refrain from returning -ENOSYS.
> > */
> > #define ENOSYS 38 /* Invalid system call number */
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miklos
>
> That ship is sailed since ENOSYS was returned to user-space for the first time.
>
> It reminds me a bit of Linus' "we do not break userspace" email from 2012 [1, 2], where Linus wrote:
> > Applications *do* care about error return values. There's no way in
> > hell you can willy-nilly just change them. And if you do change them,
> > and applications break, there is no way in hell you can then blame the
> > application.
Correct. The question is whether any application would break in this
case. I think not, but you are free to prove otherwise.
Thanks,
Miklos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-18 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-04 18:36 [PATCH] ovl: Handle ENOSYS when fileattr support is missing in lower/upper fs Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 9:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-07-18 10:10 ` Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 10:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-07-18 10:56 ` Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 12:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-07-18 13:03 ` [PATCH] [REGRESSION] " Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 13:13 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2022-07-18 14:25 ` Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 15:02 ` Antonio SJ Musumeci
2022-07-18 17:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-07-18 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 19:04 ` Christian Kohlschütter
2022-07-18 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 19:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-07-18 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 20:33 ` Christian Kohlschütter
2023-01-18 3:41 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-01-26 13:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-01-30 19:27 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-02-23 23:11 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-03-07 1:12 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-03-07 8:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-03-07 17:14 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-03-09 15:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-03-15 2:43 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-03-22 18:42 ` Jonathan Katz
2023-04-21 14:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
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