From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: bjorn@mork.no, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] fix races in CDC-WDM
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:50:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1600336214.2424.39.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e724e07-3993-bcaa-79e9-45a2f7e1f759@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2020, 20:14 +0900 schrieb Tetsuo Handa:
> On 2020/09/16 19:18, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2020, 19:30 +0900 schrieb Tetsuo Handa:
> > > On 2020/09/15 18:14, Oliver Neukum wrote
> > > > Is there something we can do in flush()?
> > >
> > > I consider that wdm_flush() is a wrong place to return an error. It is possible that
> >
> > I am afraid that is a basic problem we need to resolve. As I understand
> > it, flush() as a method exists precisely to report errors. Otherwise
> > you could implement it in release(). But this is not called for every
> > close().
>
> I think fsync() or ioctl() is a better method for reporting errors.
Very well, I am implementing fsync(). However, I must say that the very
existance of fsync() tells us that write() is not expected to push
data out to devices and hence report results.
> Whether N'th write() request succeeded remains unknown until (N+1)'th
> write() request or close() request is issued? That sounds a strange design.
Welcome to the world of Unix. This is necessary if you want to block
as rarely as possible.
> If there is nothing more to write(), how userspace process knows whether
> N'th write() request succeeded? Wait for writability using poll() ?
Technically fsync(). poll() will tell you that you can write again.
That is a related but different concept.
> What is the purpose of sending the error to the userspace process via write() or close()?
Yes. However to do so, user space must be running. That the death
of a process interferes with error handling is independent from that.
> And I think that wdm_flush() is a strange interface for reporting the error.
Well, POSIX is what it is.The close() syscall is supposed to return
errors. Hence flush() must report them.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-17 10:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-12 13:20 [RFC 0/5] fix races in CDC-WDM Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 13:20 ` [RFC 1/5] CDC-WDM: fix hangs in flush() Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 13:20 ` [RFC 2/5] CDC-WDM: introduce a timeout " Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 13:20 ` [RFC 3/5] CDC-WDM: making flush() interruptible Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 13:20 ` [RFC 4/5] CDC-WDM: fix race reporting errors in flush Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 13:20 ` [RFC 5/5] CDC-WDM: remove use of intf->dev after potential disconnect Oliver Neukum
2020-08-12 14:29 ` [RFC 0/5] fix races in CDC-WDM Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-10 9:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-10 10:01 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-15 9:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-15 10:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-16 10:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-16 11:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-17 9:50 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2020-09-17 11:24 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-17 14:17 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-17 16:17 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-21 10:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-22 1:56 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-22 7:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-09-22 8:34 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-22 9:45 ` Oliver Neukum
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