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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	syzbot <syzbot+854768b99f19e89d7f81@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit.
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 16:58:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200528205807.GB21709@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeHK+ySAnU03cvg1=+yHh0YK1UFO4mrv-N9FcDDMt_0AfGZSQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:51:35PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:40 PM Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:03:43PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, so the problem is that when a process exits, it tries to close wdm
> > > fd first, which ends up calling wdm_flush(), which can't finish
> > > because the USB requests are not terminated before raw-gadget fd is
> > > closed, which is supposed to happen after wdm fd is closed. Is this
> > > correct? I wonder what will happen if a real device stays connected
> > > and ignores wdm requests.
> > >
> > > I don't understand though, how using wait_event_interruptible() will
> > > shadow anything here.
> > >
> > > Alan, Greg, is this acceptable behavior for a USB driver?
> >
> > I don't understand what the problem is.  Can you explain in more general
> > terms -- nothing specific to wdm or anything like that -- what you are
> > concerned about?  Is this something that could happen to any gadget
> > driver?  Or any USB class device driver?  Or does it only affect
> > usespace components of raw-gadget drivers?
> 
> So, AFAIU, we have a driver whose flush() callback blocks on
> wait_event(), which can only terminate when either 1) the driver
> receives a particular USB response from the device or 2) the device
> disconnects.

This sounds like a bug in the driver.  What would it do if someone had a 
genuine (not emulated) but buggy USB device which didn't send the 
desired response?  The only way to unblock the driver would be to unplug 
the device!  That isn't acceptable behavior.

> For 1) the emulated device doesn't provide required
> responses. For 2) the problem is that the emulated via raw-gadget
> device disconnects when the process is killed (and raw-gadget fd is
> closed). But that process is the same process that is currently stuck
> on wait_event() in the flush callback(), and therefore unkillable.

What would happen if you unload dummy-hcd at this point?  Or even just 
do: echo 0 >/sys/bus/usb/devices/usbN/bConfigurationValue, where N is 
the bus number of the dummy-hcd bus?

> This can generally happen with any driver that goes into
> uninterruptible sleep within one of its code paths reachable from
> userspace that can only be unblocked by a particular behavior from the
> USB device. But I haven't seen any such drivers so far, wdm is the
> first.

Drivers should never go into uninterruptible sleep states unless they 
can guarantee that the duration will be bounded somehow (for example, by 
a reasonable timeout).  Or that cutting the sleep state short would 
cause the system to crash -- but that's not an issue here.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 23:31 [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-21  7:33 ` Greg KH
2020-05-21 10:01   ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-21 19:50     ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-21 22:48       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-22  8:04         ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-22  8:26           ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-25 12:06             ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-25 13:32               ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27  4:47                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 15:18                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 16:03                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 19:03                       ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 19:40                         ` Alan Stern
2020-05-28 19:51                           ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 20:58                             ` Alan Stern [this message]
2020-05-29 20:41                               ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-30  0:42                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-30  1:10                                   ` Alan Stern
2020-05-30  4:58                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-24 11:57                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2020-06-24 12:48                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-30  6:08                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-01 12:26                                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-30 15:25                               ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-30 15:47                                 ` Alan Stern
2020-06-08  2:24                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-18  0:48                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-19 13:56                                       ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-06-23 11:20                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-02  5:44                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-02  7:24                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-15  6:15                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-08-10 10:47                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-24 15:09                                                   ` [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Make wdm_flush() interruptible and add wdm_fsync() Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-28 14:17                                                     ` [PATCH (repost)] " Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-25  9:56                                     ` [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit Oliver Neukum
2020-06-25 11:15                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-01  7:08                                     ` [TEST]Re: " Oliver Neukum

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