From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
syzbot <syzbot+854768b99f19e89d7f81@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit.
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 22:41:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+xx-uodQWBDA2pJ_Et26uBPb6J7fTwu4h6D1uUTv8t3HA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528205807.GB21709@rowland.harvard.edu>
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:58 PM Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:51:35PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:40 PM Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:03:43PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah, so the problem is that when a process exits, it tries to close wdm
> > > > fd first, which ends up calling wdm_flush(), which can't finish
> > > > because the USB requests are not terminated before raw-gadget fd is
> > > > closed, which is supposed to happen after wdm fd is closed. Is this
> > > > correct? I wonder what will happen if a real device stays connected
> > > > and ignores wdm requests.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand though, how using wait_event_interruptible() will
> > > > shadow anything here.
> > > >
> > > > Alan, Greg, is this acceptable behavior for a USB driver?
> > >
> > > I don't understand what the problem is. Can you explain in more general
> > > terms -- nothing specific to wdm or anything like that -- what you are
> > > concerned about? Is this something that could happen to any gadget
> > > driver? Or any USB class device driver? Or does it only affect
> > > usespace components of raw-gadget drivers?
> >
> > So, AFAIU, we have a driver whose flush() callback blocks on
> > wait_event(), which can only terminate when either 1) the driver
> > receives a particular USB response from the device or 2) the device
> > disconnects.
>
> This sounds like a bug in the driver. What would it do if someone had a
> genuine (not emulated) but buggy USB device which didn't send the
> desired response? The only way to unblock the driver would be to unplug
> the device! That isn't acceptable behavior.
OK, that's what I thought.
>
> > For 1) the emulated device doesn't provide required
> > responses. For 2) the problem is that the emulated via raw-gadget
> > device disconnects when the process is killed (and raw-gadget fd is
> > closed). But that process is the same process that is currently stuck
> > on wait_event() in the flush callback(), and therefore unkillable.
>
> What would happen if you unload dummy-hcd at this point? Or even just
> do: echo 0 >/sys/bus/usb/devices/usbN/bConfigurationValue, where N is
> the bus number of the dummy-hcd bus?
The device disconnects and flush() unblocks.
> > This can generally happen with any driver that goes into
> > uninterruptible sleep within one of its code paths reachable from
> > userspace that can only be unblocked by a particular behavior from the
> > USB device. But I haven't seen any such drivers so far, wdm is the
> > first.
>
> Drivers should never go into uninterruptible sleep states unless they
> can guarantee that the duration will be bounded somehow (for example, by
> a reasonable timeout). Or that cutting the sleep state short would
> cause the system to crash -- but that's not an issue here.
OK, thank you, Alan!
Tetsuo, could you clarify why you think that using
wait_event_interruptible() is a bad fix here?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-29 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-20 23:31 [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-21 7:33 ` Greg KH
2020-05-21 10:01 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-21 19:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-21 22:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-22 8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-22 8:26 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-25 12:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-25 13:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27 4:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 15:18 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 16:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 19:03 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 19:40 ` Alan Stern
2020-05-28 19:51 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-28 20:58 ` Alan Stern
2020-05-29 20:41 ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2020-05-30 0:42 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-30 1:10 ` Alan Stern
2020-05-30 4:58 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-24 11:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-06-24 12:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-30 6:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-01 12:26 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-30 15:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-05-30 15:47 ` Alan Stern
2020-06-08 2:24 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-18 0:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-19 13:56 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-06-23 11:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-02 5:44 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-02 7:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2020-07-15 6:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-08-10 10:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-24 15:09 ` [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Make wdm_flush() interruptible and add wdm_fsync() Tetsuo Handa
2020-09-28 14:17 ` [PATCH (repost)] " Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-25 9:56 ` [PATCH] USB: cdc-wdm: Call wake_up_all() when clearing WDM_IN_USE bit Oliver Neukum
2020-06-25 11:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-01 7:08 ` [TEST]Re: " Oliver Neukum
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